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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:56:35 GMT
We are told the wife runs interference for him. He's a leaner, she's the woman he leans on.
Holden doesn't like strong women, as if they are toxic...poison.
Lots of woman hating here in Odets' dialogue.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:58:32 GMT
She regards her husband as a cunning drunkard.
I think 'drunkard' has disappeared from our language now. Most people say drunk, as a noun, instead of drunkard.
We say 'that person is a raging drunk.' We don't say 'that person is a drunkard' anymore.
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Post by marysara1 on Jan 29, 2023 20:58:39 GMT
Bing is known as a singer and light-comedy artist, not a dramatic actor.
This film and a 1971 TV movie 'Dr. Cook's Garden' were his only two serious roles.
Ironically, this story is about a boozer...and William Holden was a lifelong alcoholic. What about Little Boy Lost and Man on Fire? |
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:01:01 GMT
He needs the syrup with 22% alcohol for his cough.
I love this dressing room scene.
She suspects he's hidden another bottle somewhere.
Yet Odets is letting us think the woman is the villain.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:02:00 GMT
Bing is known as a singer and light-comedy artist, not a dramatic actor.
This film and a 1971 TV movie 'Dr. Cook's Garden' were his only two serious roles.
Ironically, this story is about a boozer...and William Holden was a lifelong alcoholic. What about Little Boy Lost and Man on Fire? |
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 21:02:48 GMT
He needs the syrup with 22% alcohol for his cough.
I love this dressing room scene.
She suspects he's hidden another bottle somewhere.
Yet Odets is letting us think the woman is the villain. |
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:04:51 GMT
This feels like a three-character play. I can see why Paramount did not put more money into it and give it the VistaVision and Technicolor treatment like they did for WHITE CHRISTMAS the same year. It's not very cinematic. It really seems like a filmed play, which is okay...it's character driven and depends on the three lead actors.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:06:28 GMT
More female bashing on aisle 6. Holden says he has no time to outmaneuver Kelly and calls her a frustrated female.
If this were remade today, it would have more politically correct dialogue without the woman being seen as the bitch/problem.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jan 29, 2023 21:06:51 GMT
There's that "cunning drunk." Yes, he lies and lies and lies.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 21:07:29 GMT
This feels like a three-character play. I can see why Paramount did not put more money into it and give it the VistaVision and Technicolor treatment like they did for WHITE CHRISTMAS the same year. It's not very cinematic. It really seems like a filmed play, which is okay...it's character driven and depends on the three lead actors. |
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:09:04 GMT
Lounge singer Jacqueline Fontaine appears around the 69-minute mark.
She is still living as I write this...she's 95 years old now.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 21:10:01 GMT
More female bashing on aisle 6. Holden says he has no time to outmaneuver Kelly and calls her a frustrated female.
If this were remade today, it would have more politically correct dialogue without the woman being seen as the bitch/problem.
The irony here is that Kelly is the one truly good person of the three. |
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:13:13 GMT
More female bashing on aisle 6. Holden says he has no time to outmaneuver Kelly and calls her a frustrated female.
If this were remade today, it would have more politically correct dialogue without the woman being seen as the bitch/problem.
The irony here is that Kelly is the one truly good person of the three. |
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:14:14 GMT
The broken mirror scene was way over the top. It was cringe worthy and I would have eliminated it.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 21:15:34 GMT
The scene where they bail him out of jail is excellent. This contains Bing Crosby's best acting in any movie.
He is allowing us to see a more unpolished, flawed man...and it's a richer characterization.
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