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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 20:36:41 GMT
What an awful event. You can understand how that would break a person and a marriage.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:39:06 GMT
What I wondered-- why didn't they try again and have another child?
"The Land Around Us."
The theater set in Boston looks exactly the same as the NY one.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jan 29, 2023 20:39:38 GMT
It instantly explains Grace's depressed demeanor. I like the contrast between happy Grace in her flirty veiled hat and the woman she is now.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 20:40:48 GMT
It instantly explains Grace's depressed demeanor. I like the contrast between happy Grace in her flirty veiled hat and the woman she is now. That "flirty veil" (kudos, great wording) move is insanely good.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:42:33 GMT
Why isn't he wearing a more obvious hairpiece in Boston? Wasn't the idea to try and make him look ten years younger?
He still looks the same age!
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 20:44:09 GMT
Why isn't he wearing a more obvious hairpiece in Boston? Wasn't the idea to try and make him look ten years younger?
He still looks the same age! I think the hair he has without the two side pieces is also a toupee.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:45:01 GMT
Ida Moore is so cute, in this brief scene where as a cast member in the musical, she apologizes for ruining a line. She also appeared with Bing Crosby in MR. MUSIC (1950).
I love the costume change scene.
We also have Gene Reynolds as an assistant director. He would become a well-respected TV director.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:47:43 GMT
Why isn't he wearing a more obvious hairpiece in Boston? Wasn't the idea to try and make him look ten years younger?
He still looks the same age! I think the hair he has without the two side pieces is also a toupee. They should have started him as bald in the opening audition sequence.
If Der Bingle had been willing to look his actual age at the beginning, to get gritty and unglamorous, he might have actually taken home the Oscar.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 20:49:13 GMT
Just threw his wife under the bus with the understudy.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:50:25 GMT
We are told the wife runs interference for him. He's a leaner, she's the woman he leans on.
Holden doesn't like strong women, as if they are toxic...poison.
Lots of woman hating here in Odets' dialogue.
Some of it feels like a live TV drama.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:52:20 GMT
Why not let her read the review, since he's a leaner. This scene where he gets the paper delivered and he aggressively/assertively reads the review seems out of character based on what we know about them and their spousal relationship.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jan 29, 2023 20:52:30 GMT
"Just threw his wife under the bus with the understudy."
Exactly the words that came to my mind. I'm really starting to dislike Frank.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 20:54:37 GMT
We are told the wife runs interference for him. He's a leaner, she's the woman he leans on.
Holden doesn't like strong women, as if they are toxic...poison.
Lots of woman hating here in Odets' dialogue.
Some of it feels like a live TV drama. To be fair, Kelly is actually coming out the good person and Frank as the *ss.
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Post by topbilled on Jan 29, 2023 20:55:01 GMT
Also the relationship between producer and director could and should mirror the one between the star and wife.
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'Wanted for murder' publicity shot is a good way to reference his backstory and feelings of guilt about the death of his son.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jan 29, 2023 20:56:34 GMT
Also the relationship between producer and director could and should mirror the one between the star and wife.
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'Wanted for murder' publicity shot is a good way to reference his backstory and feelings of guilt about the death of his son.
That was powerful.
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