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Post by Fading Fast on Jun 11, 2023 20:18:17 GMT
The phrase that has always stirred an Englishman...
"Let right be done."
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jun 11, 2023 20:18:26 GMT
"Oh yes, I see, there's always the allowance." Catherine has begun to see John for the weakling he is.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jun 11, 2023 20:21:42 GMT
Man did she deliver that line with perfect subtlety:
"Let right be done."
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Post by topbilled on Jun 11, 2023 20:23:49 GMT
I don't like how they've given the daughter's subplot all this prominence. She has more screen time than I would give her. And we barely see the young boy, whose plot is supposed to be the centerpiece of the story.
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Post by topbilled on Jun 11, 2023 20:25:35 GMT
Francis L. Sullivan is a great character actor.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jun 11, 2023 20:28:53 GMT
I don't like how they've given the daughter's subplot all this prominence. She has more screen time than I would give her. And we barely see the young boy, whose plot is supposed to be the centerpiece of the story. I understand your point, but I think she provides a clean view into the principle - remember she's admitted she's not in it for the boy - and she's sacrificing a lot for it. It's a very big compliment to the suffragettes.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jun 11, 2023 20:34:14 GMT
A fellow officer to defend him when he was a man of 22.
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Post by topbilled on Jun 11, 2023 20:37:32 GMT
I don't like how they've given the daughter's subplot all this prominence. She has more screen time than I would give her. And we barely see the young boy, whose plot is supposed to be the centerpiece of the story. I understand your point, but I think she provides a clean view into the principle - remember she's admitted she's not in it for the boy - and she's sacrificing a lot for it. It's a very big compliment to the suffragettes. I feel she's a stereotyped view of feminism written by a man. How many times has she denied being a militant woman? As if we should be ashamed if she were a fierce female...and forget she's feminine.
And it's clear to me her romantic subplot was given so much prominence because the studio felt a "love" story would help sell the film to audiences...instead of relying on the central issue about fighting injustice.
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Post by topbilled on Jun 11, 2023 20:39:26 GMT
Now at the 99 minute mark she has more screen time telling father that Desmond proposed to her.
I'd rather see some scenes between the father and the young boy, discussing how the trial is coming along. I don't care about this woman's endless romantic tribulations.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jun 11, 2023 20:40:24 GMT
I understand your point, but I think she provides a clean view into the principle - remember she's admitted she's not in it for the boy - and she's sacrificing a lot for it. It's a very big compliment to the suffragettes. I feel she's a stereotyped view of feminism written by a man. How many times has she denied being a militant woman? As if we should be ashamed if she were a fierce female...and forget she's feminine.
And it's clear to me her romantic subplot was given so much prominence because the studio felt a "love" story would help sell the film to audiences...instead of relying on the central issue about fighting injustice. There are women who aren't militant feminist, but are still quite strong about their views in favor of it. I've lived with one for two decades.
And you can't blame the studio, it is a business. I think they've done her role very well.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jun 11, 2023 20:40:56 GMT
"Lord Chief Justice."
I love how the English can string so many nouns into one title.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jun 11, 2023 20:44:27 GMT
"Lord Chief Justice."
I love how the English can string so many nouns into one title. LOL I always had to wade through Chief Superintendent Inspector Wexford in the Ruth Rendell books.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jun 11, 2023 20:45:46 GMT
I would like to have seen the ending but Violet does a good job at picturing it for us.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jun 11, 2023 20:51:11 GMT
Great choice. Just a wonderful movie.
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Post by kims on Jun 11, 2023 20:55:41 GMT
Now that you've seen this version of THE WINSLOW BOY, check out David Mamet's version from 1999(?). I haven't seen the play, but both film versions focus more on the daughter and father's principles, not much on the boy. Maybe that is how the play was written. I like both film versions. Interested how others compare the two.
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