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Post by cineclassics on Jan 15, 2023 22:38:52 GMT
Host of TCM Underground, Millie de Chirico, announced that she was recently let go from TCM after 18.5 years due to "company restructuring." I've done a bit of research and I haven't been able to confirm one way or the other what the status of the series is. |
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Post by BingFan on Jan 15, 2023 23:51:00 GMT
Host of TCM Underground, Millie de Chirico, announced that she was recently let go from TCM after 18.5 years due to "company restructuring."
But it could be that they’re using up already-taped intros with the departing host before the feature ends. Or maybe they’re going to continue TCM Underground without a host.
I’ve never watched TCM Underground because I simply don’t like the kinds of movies it includes. But I know that others like it, and it features distinctive kinds of movies. So I think it’d be a shame if TCM cancels it, even though I wouldn’t personally miss it. |
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Post by topbilled on Jan 15, 2023 23:53:06 GMT
Does this mean they are doing away with the TCM Underground series?
But it could be that they’re using up already-taped intros with the departing host before the feature ends. Or maybe they’re going to continue TCM Underground without a host.
I’ve never watched TCM Underground because I simply don’t like the kinds of movies it includes. But I know that others like it, and it features a distinctive kinds of movies. So I think it’d be a shame if TCM cancels it, even though I wouldn’t personally miss it. |
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Post by sagebrush on Jan 16, 2023 3:00:18 GMT
Does this mean they are doing away with the TCM Underground series?
But it could be that they’re using up already-taped intros with the departing host before the feature ends. Or maybe they’re going to continue TCM Underground without a host.
Underground doesn't have a host. They just kind of throw it out there every Friday night!  |
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Post by yanceycravat on Jan 16, 2023 5:17:00 GMT
I'm just getting around to hearing that Millie is leaving TCM. That sucks. And she recently had that book come out which they are still advertising.
I guess that's it for their TCM Underground Segments on YouTube.
What the hell is going on there???
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Post by I Love Melvin on Jan 16, 2023 13:38:27 GMT
I'm just getting around to hearing that Millie is leaving TCM. That sucks. And she recently had that book come out which they are still advertising.
I guess that's it for their TCM Underground Segments on YouTube.
What the hell is going on there??? Yes, her book is prominently featured in the current book promo. Her dismissal is actually a disappointment piled on a disappointment; all along she's been such a natural for hosting duties and Underground is the kind of thing which could really benefit from a host, yet they've kept her in the background for years. Her recent Slumberground segments on their YouTube channel with a couple of fellow TCM staffers were fun and informative, though I agree with BingFan that a lot of the films weren't personally appealing, especially the blood-and-guts type. Even so, there was a lot of discussion about the film itself, the filmmaker and the different genres, all of which shouldn't have been tucked away on YouTube where most people wouldn't search it out. It should have been front and center in the Underground time slot, with Millie at the helm. She's proven that she can sustain lengthy segments a-la Eddie Muller, which I'm not sure any of the other TCM hosts could really do. This all makes me wonder once again whether or not the people making the decisions these days are even fans of TCM and actually watch the channel. It doesn't seem like it sometimes. In a related, foreboding note, Epix has just been rebranded as MGM Plus, so I'm wondering how long Warners will be able to resist slapping its name on TCM. |
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Post by sagebrush on Jan 16, 2023 14:40:19 GMT
I wonder about the fate of Underground, as well. For a while,they were showing the in between films promo for Underground in which Millie talks about the series, it's followers and what she tried to include in the programming. That is completely gone now, perhaps because they discharged her, but also suspiciously absent is the bumper for Underground with the rock music and the body with a TV on it's head:
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Post by yanceycravat on Jan 16, 2023 14:55:25 GMT
I'm just getting around to hearing that Millie is leaving TCM. That sucks. And she recently had that book come out which they are still advertising.
I guess that's it for their TCM Underground Segments on YouTube.
What the hell is going on there??? This all makes me wonder once again whether or not the people making the decisions these days are even fans of TCM and actually watch the channel. It doesn't seem like it sometimes. In a related, foreboding note, Epix has just been rebranded as MGM Plus, so I'm wondering how long Warners will be able to resist slapping its name on TCM. I agree with your full statement above. I rarely watched the film show during the Underground but I've seen every installment of Slumberground. I found them very entertaining and vastly informative.
I don't know if anyone else here noticed but on the TCM YouTube channel they pulled the TCM Remembers segment in early January and replaced it with an identical version but with one small difference at the end...
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Jan 16, 2023 16:18:00 GMT
I'm just getting around to hearing that Millie is leaving TCM. That sucks. And she recently had that book come out which they are still advertising.
I guess that's it for their TCM Underground Segments on YouTube.
What the hell is going on there??? Yes, her book is prominently featured in the current book promo. Her dismissal is actually a disappointment piled on a disappointment; all along she's been such a natural for hosting duties and Underground is the kind of thing which could really benefit from a host, yet they've kept her in the background for years. Her recent Slumberground segments on their YouTube channel with a couple of fellow TCM staffers were fun and informative, though I agree with BingFan that a lot of the films weren't personally appealing, especially the blood-and-guts type. Even so, there was a lot of discussion about the film itself, the filmmaker and the different genres, all of which shouldn't have been tucked away on YouTube where most people wouldn't search it out. It should have been front and center in the Underground time slot, with Millie at the helm. She's proven that she can sustain lengthy segments a-la Eddie Muller, which I'm not sure any of the other TCM hosts could really do. This all makes me wonder once again whether or not the people making the decisions these days are even fans of TCM and actually watch the channel. It doesn't seem like it sometimes. In a related, foreboding note, Epix has just been rebranded as MGM Plus, so I'm wondering how long Warners will be able to resist slapping its name on TCM. Sorry, but I have to give my standard reply: capitalism. On the bright side at least Musk didn't take over TCM. |
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Post by yanceycravat on Jan 16, 2023 16:40:05 GMT
Give it time!
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Post by I Love Melvin on Jan 17, 2023 0:17:34 GMT
I wonder about the fate of Underground, as well. For a while,they were showing the in between films promo for Underground in which Millie talks about the series, it's followers and what she tried to include in the programming. That is completely gone now, perhaps because they discharged her, but also suspiciously absent is the bumper for Underground with the rock music and the body with a TV on it's head. The Underground style of programming has been part of the Turner DNA since the beginning and some of the best graphics were devoted to it. |
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Jan 17, 2023 0:31:59 GMT
I invited Musk on a sea voyage on The Ghost Ship with Richard Dix as captain. Anything to ensure such a deal never happens! |
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Post by yanceycravat on Jan 17, 2023 0:57:24 GMT
Now that I'd like to see!
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Post by Lucky Dan on Jan 17, 2023 1:21:06 GMT
What the hell is going on there??? This all makes me wonder once again whether or not the people making the decisions these days are even fans of TCM and actually watch the channel. It doesn't seem like it sometimes.
www.indiewire.com/2023/01/tcm-warnermedia-discovery-1234799610/
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Post by cineclassics on Jan 17, 2023 15:00:35 GMT
I also read that same article--and that is somewhat comforting. And you would think that TCM doesn't exactly have a ton of overhead costs because they own the vast majority of the films they show.
So, what exactly are the expenses for TCM? Presumably, paying 5 hosts to do the job that one man, Robert Osborne, used to do, doesn't seem the most cost effective. At this point, I think Ben's job is secure, as he is now by far the most senior host, with about 20 years of experience. The others, not so sure.
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