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Post by sepiatone on May 1, 2023 16:11:38 GMT
My understanding is that Yoko was often "there" at John's insistence. So smitten by her he was that he seemed to invest his entire soul in her. I can understand that. But you have to also realize she was behind saving John's life. During his phase of self destructive drinking binges she gave him an ultimatum, and discovering he couldn't withstand her not being there for him he relented and managed to straighten out. She's also a savvy businesswoman with a sharp financial acumen and kept John away from financial ruin. To blame Yoko for breaking up the Beatles I think was a belief created by fans in order to not blame any members of the band. JAMES: I think out of the entire Beatles song library John and Paul collaborated on very few songs comparatively. Early on though, as it's often been stated, they both agreed to share credit for any original songs regardless which one of them composed any of them, thus all songs were published as "Lennon/McCartney". As for who really broke up The Beatles, I though George Harrison settled all of that.  My feeling is that Yoko had nothing to do with it. But the clash of the bigger egos did. Sepiatone |
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Post by galacticgirrrl on May 2, 2023 3:54:00 GMT
I'd walk away like a movie star
Who gets burned in a three way script
Enter number two, a movie queen to play the scene
Of bringing all the good things out in me
But for now, love, let's be real
Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind (1972)
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Post by NoShear on May 2, 2023 11:53:03 GMT
I'd walk away like a movie star Who gets burned in a three way script Enter number two, a movie queen to play the scene Of bringing all the good things out in me But for now, love, let's be real Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind (1972) The "haunting guitar" of the electric ode here would rate posting even without Gordon Lightfoot's passing: |
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Post by galacticgirrrl on May 2, 2023 20:18:14 GMT
The Legend Lives On indeed....the spirit of the man...and the song.
Glad you posted that one NoShear - I didn't dare with it being so long, but it is such a gorgeous and haunting work. I was sorry when Gord felt he had to change the lyrics to reflect scientific information about the sinking. At 7pm the main hatchway caved in was one of the most poignant parts of the song. To me it doesn't lay blame...but that's just me. I'm no able bodied seaman, just an unrequited first mate.
Gordon Lightfoot - Song For A Winter's Night
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Post by sepiatone on May 3, 2023 16:06:39 GMT
Ya know, I've heard that poem "The Song Of Hiawatha" since early childhood. But not until Lightfoot's song "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" did I realize the "Gitche Gummi" mentioned in the poem was a reference to Lake Superior.
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Post by NoShear on May 3, 2023 16:23:27 GMT
The Legend Lives On indeed....the spirit of the man...and the song. Glad you posted that one NoShear - I didn't dare with it being so long, but it is such a gorgeous and haunting work. I was sorry when Gord felt he had to change the lyrics to reflect scientific information about the sinking. At 7pm the main hatchway caved in was one of the most poignant parts of the song. To me it doesn't lay blame...but that's just me. I'm no able bodied seaman, just an unrequited first mate. I thought it too obvious, but obviously too great to overlook... I like how you brought the apropos movie screen to your earlier Gordon Lightfoot tribute and, conversely, the folk genre to the movie set with your Letty Lynton tribute. |
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Post by NoShear on May 7, 2023 15:17:11 GMT
Ya know, I've heard that poem "The Song Of Hiawatha" since early childhood. But not until Lightfoot's song "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" did I realize the "Gitche Gummi" mentioned in the poem was a reference to Lake Superior. Sepiatone With our discussion of late-1960s Detroit, Sepiatone: If I correctly recall hearing or reading, David Bowie remarked about his acquisition of guitarist Mick Ronson: "I now had my Jeff Beck!" |
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Post by sepiatone on May 7, 2023 15:46:21 GMT
Odd, I'm not sure what "Gitchee Gummi" has to do with a discussion of late '60's Detroit or a Bowie tune from 1973.
As to the other....
Everybody seems to be under the impression that Jeff Beck was a much better guitarist than I ever thought he was. I thought he was good, mind you, but.....
And getting BACK to guitars,
Sepiatone
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Post by NoShear on May 7, 2023 16:26:19 GMT
Odd, I'm not sure what "Gitchee Gummi" has to do with a discussion of late '60's Detroit or a Bowie tune from 1973. As to the other.... Everybody seems to be under the impression that Jeff Beck was a much better guitarist than I ever thought he was. I thought he was good, mind you, but..... And getting BACK to guitars, Sepiatone Michigan: Lake Superior and our brief Detroit Tigers/riots discussion, Sepiatone... |
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Post by NoShear on May 7, 2023 16:34:06 GMT
Odd, I'm not sure what "Gitchee Gummi" has to do with a discussion of late '60's Detroit or a Bowie tune from 1973. As to the other.... Everybody seems to be under the impression that Jeff Beck was a much better guitarist than I ever thought he was. I thought he was good, mind you, but..... And getting BACK to guitars, Sepiatone "Panic in Detroit" was inspired by a 1967 Detroit riots story which Iggy Pop shared with David Bowie if I'm not mistaken... Regarding David Bowie's Mick Ronson/Jeff Beck comment, Sepiatone, keep in mind that David - once "Jones" - Bowie was coming from a Carnaby Street shopper's standpoint: |
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Post by NoShear on May 7, 2023 16:44:59 GMT
Regarding David Bowie's Mick Ronson/Jeff Beck comment, Sepiatone, keep in mind that David - once "Jones" - Bowie was coming from a Carnaby Street shopper's standpoint: David Bowie and Mick Ronson bringing it full circle: |
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Post by sepiatone on May 8, 2023 15:27:02 GMT
"Panic in Detroit" was inspired by a 1967 Detroit riots story which Iggy Pop shared with David Bowie if I'm not mistaken... Regarding David Bowie's Mick Ronson/Jeff Beck comment, Sepiatone, keep in mind that David - once "Jones" - Bowie was coming from a Carnaby Street shopper's standpoint:  Yes,we here all knew Bowie's song was in reference to the riot(now referred to as a "rebellion"). But my query was how the mention of "Gitchee Gummi" in a Gordon Lightfoot song is connected to a discussion of late '60's Detroit. But since you brought up the name of Iggy "Pop" (oy) and to fit into a discussion of late '60's Detroit, let's go with.... When the man was known as just "Iggy" or for the press, "Iggy Stooge". (James Newell Osterberg Jr.) Sepiatone |
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Post by NoShear on May 9, 2023 13:09:48 GMT
"Panic in Detroit" was inspired by a 1967 Detroit riots story which Iggy Pop shared with David Bowie if I'm not mistaken... Regarding David Bowie's Mick Ronson/Jeff Beck comment, Sepiatone, keep in mind that David - once "Jones" - Bowie was coming from a Carnaby Street shopper's standpoint: Yes,we here all knew Bowie's song was in reference to the riot(now referred to as a "rebellion"). But my query was how the mention of "Gitchee Gummi" in a Gordon Lightfoot song is connected to a discussion of late '60's Detroit. Sepiatone Lake Superior (Read: Michigan) |
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Post by sepiatone on May 9, 2023 16:05:44 GMT
Still need some clarity there Shear. I mean I DID mention "Gitchee Gummi" being a reference to lake Superior. And Lightfoot did also mention Superior's name a bit later. But if your intent was to remind us that David Bowie did a song in reference to the '67 Detroit riot I'd have to remind you that he was late to that party. From '69 Sepiatone |
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Post by NoShear on May 9, 2023 21:30:43 GMT
Still need some clarity there Shear. I mean I DID mention "Gitchee Gummi" being a reference to lake Superior. And Lightfoot did also mention Superior's name a bit later. But if your intent was to remind us that David Bowie did a song in reference to the '67 Detroit riot I'd have to remind you that he was late to that party. With our brief exchange on late 1960s Detroit, Sepiatone, I got to thinking of "Panic in Detroit" and just used your Gordon Lightfoot/Lake Superior post as a springboard to alert you to the tune... Mick Ronson fans presumably have found the proverbial late hour of the song to have been perfect timing. |
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Yes,we here all knew Bowie's song was in reference to the riot(now referred to as a "rebellion"). But my query was how the mention of "Gitchee Gummi" in a Gordon Lightfoot song is connected to a discussion of late '60's Detroit.