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Post by hoganman1 on Oct 23, 2022 17:17:43 GMT
I watched CAGE OF EVIL and Eddie warned us it wasn't very good. He was right. I literally fell asleep and had to rewind to see the ten minutes I missed. Anyway, I did want to post a Noir Alley thread on this new site. Hopefully, some of you will chime in so we can get a robust discussion of our favorite genre going forward.
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Post by Moe Howard on Oct 23, 2022 18:16:18 GMT
Oh it wasn't that bad, he's shown worse. I thought Ron Foster and Patricia Blair were quite good. The sets were passable and the exteriors were good. What did stink things up a bit was the awful narration by the lackluster Chief Melrose. But I don't think I've heard Eddie berate a movie more, "you'll need a couple drinks" and " for the 6 of you still watching..." As a side note TCM really dropped the ball in the guide describing the movie as a comedy western.  |
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Post by nipkowdisc on Oct 24, 2022 4:18:16 GMT
I watched cage of evil once and found it distasteful. a cop goes bad and even murders a fellow cop.
inspector melrose: "I wish he could have known that."
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Post by cineclassics on Oct 24, 2022 19:00:59 GMT
I always wonder where the line should be drawn on the film scheduling decisions. Do we show an absolutely awful film that 99% of our audience will hate, or do we show Double Indemnity for the 100th time?
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Post by cmovieviewer on Oct 26, 2022 0:37:41 GMT
I always wonder where the line should be drawn on the film scheduling decisions. Do we show an absolutely awful film that 99% of our audience will hate, or do we show Double Indemnity for the 100th time? That is a good question. With all due respect to Eddie, I think he has to be constrained by the films that TCM has available, and/or that TCM can acquire while staying within a budget. I don't think he wants to get into the details of how they make arrangements to show films, but certainly he doesn't have the ability to show any film he wants, for any time he wants. So he may have to try to spread out a mixture of high-profile films with lesser films along the way, based on all of these factors. Plus he has to pick films that he is comfortable commenting on, since he is writing the introductions himself. |
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Post by Andrea Doria on Oct 26, 2022 10:20:43 GMT
I always wonder where the line should be drawn on the film scheduling decisions. Do we show an absolutely awful film that 99% of our audience will hate, or do we show Double Indemnity for the 100th time? That is a good question. With all due respect to Eddie, I think he has to be constrained by the films that TCM has available, and/or that TCM can acquire while staying within a budget. I don't think he wants to get into the details of how they make arrangements to show films, but certainly he doesn't have the ability to show any film he wants, for any time he wants. So he may have to try to spread out a mixture of high-profile films with lesser films along the way, based on all of these factors. Plus he has to pick films that he is comfortable commenting on, since he is writing the introductions himself. That's probably true. I didn't watch a lot of Eddie's selections because I can't stay up that late, but I've seen some questionable Beverly Michaels movies on YouTube like, "Wicked Woman" that are probably too sleazy for TCM, yet entertaining and fun to talk about. (Correct me if they aired it.) |
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Post by cmovieviewer on Oct 26, 2022 18:28:59 GMT
That's probably true. I didn't watch a lot of Eddie's selections because I can't stay up that late, but I've seen some questionable Beverly Michaels movies on YouTube like, "Wicked Woman" that are probably too sleazy for TCM, yet entertaining and fun to talk about. (Correct me if they aired it.) That's a great example. Yes, Noir Alley has shown Wicked Woman, back in April of 2020. Eddie had a lot of fun with it, and referred to it as “pure, undiluted trash… in the best possible way."  Noir Alley has been on since 2017, so after 5 plus years that’s over 200 films included during that time. So another factor Eddie must consider is what has been shown before. More recently they have been doing the occasional repeat, but Eddie always records a new introduction, even if he does present some of the same information. I’m sure they want to feature some of the important Noir films again for the part of the audience that may have started watching the series more recently. With films like Cage of Evil on one side and The Maltese Falcon on the other, Eddie has covered a wide range of films on Noir Alley. Speaking of repeats, Eddie is showing Tension (1949) on November 12-13, which was previously shown on Noir Alley back in 2017. It’s one of my favorites, but I don’t want to get too far ahead. We can discuss it in a few weeks after it airs. |
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Post by hoganman1 on Oct 26, 2022 22:13:30 GMT
I actually don't mind the repeats and I get that they all cannot be DOUBLE INDEMNITY. I'm just glad we have Noir Alley. Also, I hope the generations after us boomers appreciate these films and enjoy watching. I sometimes worry that nostalgia has become a thing of the past. (tongue in cheek!)
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Post by cineclassics on Oct 26, 2022 22:20:00 GMT
I actually don't mind the repeats and I get that they all cannot be DOUBLE INDEMNITY. I'm just glad we have Noir Alley. Also, I hope the generations after us boomers appreciate these films and enjoy watching. I sometimes worry that nostalgia has become a thing of the past. (tongue in cheek!) I'm a Millennial and almost exclusively watch classic cinema. We are out there but the folks who appreciate great filmmaking from the golden era seem to be dwindling with each subsequent generation. |
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Post by hoganman1 on Oct 27, 2022 13:03:02 GMT
I actually don't mind the repeats and I get that they all cannot be DOUBLE INDEMNITY. I'm just glad we have Noir Alley. Also, I hope the generations after us boomers appreciate these films and enjoy watching. I sometimes worry that nostalgia has become a thing of the past. (tongue in cheek!) I'm a Millennial and almost exclusively watch classic cinema. We are out there but the folks who appreciate great filmmaking from the golden era seem to be dwindling with each subsequent generation. Good for you. I've tried to encourage my children and now my grandchildren to at least try watching some of the classic movies. CASABLANCA is still my favorite movie of all time. My first viewing was in the late 1970s when I was in my thirties. Hopefully, there are enough fans like you out there to keep things like TCM and MOVIES relevant. |
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Post by Fading Fast on Oct 27, 2022 13:40:38 GMT
I actually don't mind the repeats and I get that they all cannot be DOUBLE INDEMNITY. I'm just glad we have Noir Alley. Also, I hope the generations after us boomers appreciate these films and enjoy watching. I sometimes worry that nostalgia has become a thing of the past. (tongue in cheek!) I'm a Millennial and almost exclusively watch classic cinema. We are out there but the folks who appreciate great filmmaking from the golden era seem to be dwindling with each subsequent generation.
So, in a way, a kid "discovering" golden-era movies today - on TCM or another cable "old" movie channel or on a streaming service - wouldn't really be that different from me as golden-era movies are no more a part of his/her culture than they were of mine.
While there are some fans of golden-era movies who lived through some of the period still with us today, many of the present-day fans are, like me, people who discovered them after that era had ended. If that's true, there's no reason why (possibly) we shouldn't be able to continually replenish the fan base, assuming enough young kids "stumble" upon old movies in some way.
Those are just thoughts - not worthy of the words theory or argument.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Oct 27, 2022 15:25:08 GMT
I actually don't mind the repeats and I get that they all cannot be DOUBLE INDEMNITY. I'm just glad we have Noir Alley. Also, I hope the generations after us boomers appreciate these films and enjoy watching. I sometimes worry that nostalgia has become a thing of the past. (tongue in cheek!)LOL I seem to be nostalgic for my parent's youth rather than my own. Old movies that I watched when I was young make me a little sad now. I prefer to watch the films of the 30's and 40's and think of my parents watching them when they were young, all dressed up in feathered hats and fedoras on Saturday night to go to the Rialto Theater. |
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Post by thompson on Oct 29, 2022 20:23:59 GMT
I don’t think we have to worry about old classic movies going unwatched. As long as they are available to watch. The generational thing is moot really, you either get it or you don’t and it doesn’t mean a hill of beans how old or young you are. That being said, it is certainly up to the younger generations to make art now. When you get old you get stale and tired and all that. But the classic films are there for stealing, like all art is, it is there for the stealing, and young people with energy should steal it, make it their own.
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Post by Moe Howard on Oct 30, 2022 19:25:08 GMT
EL VAMPIRO NEGRO had its moments in a visual sense, most of which felt very Orson Wells to me.   It's interesting to see the cultural differences in what was acceptable to portray there vs. here. Beyond that, these subtitle films are a chore to watch. If you aren't fluent in Spanish you miss too much of the visuals in reading, you might as well resign yourself to two viewings. |
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Post by hoganman1 on Nov 13, 2022 20:13:08 GMT
I really enjoyed TENSION. Audrey Totter is always great. There were a few flaws like Eddie mentioned. Contact lenses instead of glasses don't really alter one's appearance. Also, unless I missed it they didn't really explain why Claire shot Deager. I assumed he confronted her after she returned from "the movies" which was her standard alibi for her romantic trysts. As far as Collier's attraction to Claire, I guessed fairly early he was playing her hoping she would make a mistake. I really liked seeing Cyd Charrise. I think it's the first film I've seen with her sans Fred Astaire.
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