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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2022 20:54:06 GMT
Mine is Victor/Victoria.
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Post by ando on Nov 12, 2022 10:21:25 GMT
Don’t know if I have a favorite but the Hair movie Soundtrack is probably my favorite to listen to/sing along with!
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Post by dianedebuda on Nov 12, 2022 10:40:53 GMT
I'm a huge musical fan, but don't have even just a few favorites. If it's a musical, I'll watch - even if it's rock which I can only take in very limited quanities. Draw the line at rap though. Nope, don't go there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 17:55:47 GMT
I'm a huge musical fan, but don't have even just a few favorites. If it's a musical, I'll watch - even if it's rock which I can only take in very limited quanities. Draw the line at rap though. Nope, don't go there. I can agree with all of that Diane. Xanadu is a fun movie. Perhaps because I wouldn't have expected Gene Kelly there. I've always been a fan of Olivia Newton-John going back to her first songs like "Let Me Be There." A bigger fan of Grease, perhaps for the 50s time period. Love that stuff. I started a thread because the category was empty and knew I could add something to it, which was actually mandatory.
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Post by ando on Dec 6, 2022 19:18:39 GMT
I appreciate rap, though not in musicals... yet. Hamilton is a good effort but it resembles more Stephen Sondheim than Grandmaster Flash:
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Post by Lucky Dan on Dec 6, 2022 19:27:22 GMT
This one comes to mind. Sometimes when I was trying to buck up my kids when they were young, I'd bust out my Roz impression with I had a DREEEAM babyyyy!
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Post by dianedebuda on Dec 6, 2022 23:37:41 GMT
I appreciate rap, though not in musicals... yet. Hamilton is a good effort but it resembles more Stephen Sondheim than Grandmaster Flash
Saw Hamilton on a national tour, but afterwards decided I would have liked it better as a non-musical - a radical departure for me. I classify Rap as an art form closer to Poetry than Music. 🤷♀
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Post by ando on Dec 7, 2022 0:23:06 GMT
I appreciate rap, though not in musicals... yet. Hamilton is a good effort but it resembles more Stephen Sondheim than Grandmaster Flash
Saw Hamilton on a national tour, but afterwards decided I would have liked it better as a non-musical - a radical departure for me. I classify Rap as an art form closer to Poetry than Music. 🤷♀ Of course. Isn’t that rather like saying the libretto is closer to poetry than music? It’s an aspect of Opera as rap is an aspect of Hip Hop.
At any rate, the music is one of the chief virtues of Hamilton. It certainly isn’t the history! As a straight play it would be pretty dismal. For a far more accurate portrait of Alexander Hamilton in a play format check out Sidney Kingley’s The Patriots on YouTube. Good writing and great performances.
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Post by dianedebuda on Dec 7, 2022 2:12:01 GMT
Of course. Isn’t that rather like saying the libretto is closer to poetry than music? It’s an aspect of Opera as rap is an aspect of Hip Hop.
For me, Rap is nothing but libretto if you want to use those terms. I'll say it's an Art Form, but that's it. Can appreciate that many others do not share my view and that's just fine. 🙂
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Post by ando on Dec 7, 2022 5:11:21 GMT
Of course. Isn’t that rather like saying the libretto is closer to poetry than music? It’s an aspect of Opera as rap is an aspect of Hip Hop.
For me, Rap is nothing but libretto if you want to use those terms. I'll say it's an Art Form, but that's it. Can appreciate that many others do not share my view and that's just fine. 🙂 Well, it’s part lyric writing, part delivery as with any vocal performance. Can’t give a rat’s ass about blind dismissals.
Anyway, speaking of Founding Fathers, I'm finally getting around to watching the 1972 version of the musical, 1776. There's currently a good free version on tubi. 1776 (1972, Peter Hunt) Follows the first Continental Congress’ attempt to meet demands of creating a new government during its struggle for independence from the British.
The above overview of the film is fun. The musical is oddly not known for great tunes but for its convincing portrait of the historical issues that formed the basis for The Constitution and the nation. My favorite film treatment of this aspect of American history is the HBO mini-series, John Adams, but that, of course, was based on the David McCullough book written 30 years later. Looking forward to finally watching the Hunt film.
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Post by dianedebuda on Dec 7, 2022 18:02:45 GMT
For me, Rap is nothing but libretto if you want to use those terms. I'll say it's an Art Form, but that's it. Can appreciate that many others do not share my view and that's just fine. 🙂 Well, it’s part lyric writing, part delivery as with any vocal performance. Can’t give a rat’s ass about blind dismissals.
Anyway, speaking of Founding Fathers, I'm finally getting around to watching the 1972 version of the musical, 1776. Again, to me, delivery is a performance aspect and can vary widely. I thought we were just discussing genres in general and I wouldn't think performance would be a part of that. 🤷♀ Not trying to convince you nor anyone else to agree - just stating my opinion about why I'd sampled and wasn't enthusiasic about Hamilton. Just because Rap doesn't appeal to me doesn't mean that I won't continue to periodically sample some from time to time. And I respect those who do enjoy it ... but at a distance when they're listening. 😁
On the other hand, I'm a real fan of 1776. Good performances, costuming, sets, a script that humanizes historical events, memorable music, clever lyrics - it's got it all to me.
Snippet of a favorite But, Mr. Adams lyric
Whereas if I'm the one to do it They'll run their quill pens through it I'm obnoxious and disliked, you know that, sir
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Dec 7, 2022 20:36:39 GMT
I started a thread because the category was empty and knew I could add something to it, which was actually mandatory. This is a really hard choice. I have a few that I could watch over and over and over but oddly I don't know I would say any one of them is my favorite: My Fair Lady Oklahoma The King and I The Sound of Music That honour I think (for now) goes to Gold Diggers of 1933. It starts off as one of those 'hey kids let's put on a show' type romps with the most stunningly beautiful number by Ginger Rogers. It is all fun and games until Joan Blondell and Etta Moten come come in and lop me off at my knees. A great blog piece here has this quote: For Busby Berkeley’s birthday: Remember My Forgotten Man Posted on November 29, 2022 by sheila www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=28191In Joan Blondell: A Life between Takes, author Matthew Kennedy writes: Jack Warner did not originally conceive of “Forgotten Man” as the finale of Gold Diggers of 1933, but it was so powerful it could not be inserted anywhere else. Joan was modest about the whole experience and hesitant to admit that she was at the center of an emblematic image of the Depression. Gold Diggers of 1933 cost $433,000 to make and earned a $2 million profit. Those figures placed it alongside 42nd Street as the biggest moneymaker of the year for Warner Bros. and among the top five of the year overall.Personal favorite moment in a musical number filled with great moments: Watch for her gesture at the very final moment of the song. She doesn’t just put her arms up into the air. She pushes them up. There is resistance to the gesture, the air is heavy, she has to push those arms up. The gesture is only seen in long-shot and she is surrounded by a cast of hundreds. But my God does that gesture carry. It reaches the cheap seats and beyond. The pain of the masses, the hope for a better future, the human condition is in that gesture.
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Post by Swithin on Dec 19, 2022 3:25:57 GMT
The great "Remember My Forgotten Man" number reminds me of another, less well known, Depression era film song: "Dusty Shoes," sung by Alexander Gray and Lillian Miles in Moonlight and Pretzels. Directed by Karl Freund. This incredible song actually includes the onset of the Depression, the election of FDR, and the end of the Depression with everyone going back to work.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Dec 19, 2022 5:25:57 GMT
The great "Remember My Forgotten Man" number reminds me of another, less well known, Depression era film song: "Dusty Shoes," sung by Alexander Gray and Lillian Miles in Moonlight and Pretzels. Directed by Karl Freund. This incredible song actually includes the onset of the Depression, the election of FDR, and the end of the Depression with everyone going back to work. Fabulous. Thank you for posting. I don't know this one.
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Post by I Love Melvin on Jan 1, 2023 14:47:47 GMT
My favorite is Li'l Abner (1959). I saw a summer stock production as a kid, bought the cast album and have loved it ever since. The movie maintains the charm by totally upping its commitment to the cartoonishly stylized sets and costuming; it's rare for a movie adaptation to build so literally on its stage roots, so that the fakery becomes the reality. I'm not going to wade into the hot button issues it could raise these days. Is it sexist? Probably, but it also involves a matriarchal society which empowers women. What it is is satire, based on one of the most pointed satirists of his day, which means it's also effectively a time capsule and anyone not willing to accept it on those terms could be disappointed. The musical very adeptly finds a middle path through some of the thornier and more hair-raising themes of Al Capp's work and the charming score seals the deal. It's awash in unique and captivating characters, such as local temptress Moonbeam McSwine, who "does alright when the wind blows the other way", Senator Jack S. Phogbound ("There's no Jack S. like our Jack S.") and Appassionata Von Climax, "secretary" to General Bullmoose, a greedy businessman always up for a swindle. There's a constant tension between what's admirable and what's laughable about Dogpatch society; their naivete is almost their undoing but it's also their biggest asset since they can bypass the convoluted strategies deployed against them.
The basic plot centers on Abner's source of strength, the tonic his mother makes for him, which stalls a government plan to use Dogpatch as a bomb testing site because it's so "unnecessary". Scientists get into the picture as they evaluate the drug, as well as General Bullmoose, who wants to profit from it. The scientists have a great number, "Oh, Happy Day", in which they envision a future based on strictly scientific principles in which "Slenderella-type mothers and Muscle Beach dads trundle off to push-button homes". Abner heads to Washington D.C. to advocate for Dogpatch. There's a fun "breaking-up-the-society-ball" number a-la The Unsinkable Molly Brown and Abner reports back to his fellow citizens that "the country's in the very best of hands" in one of the show's cleverest numbers, in which his optimism is undercut by what we can glean from the song about what's really going on. It's this ability to tell the story on different levels which really elevates the show; expectation and reality are constantly colliding and that's the richest source of humor. We're meant to love these people for their foolishness, not in spite of it. If we're honest, foolishness is the bedrock of so much of our society and these characters are a gentle reminder not to take ourselves so seriously.
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