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Post by sepiatone on May 25, 2023 17:08:55 GMT
Roman and Greek writers who saw Cleo write that she was white. Maybe they made it up to fit their biases. 285 bce Ptolemy I became pharaoh and continued the Egyptian practice of the pharaoh marrying his sister to keep the royal blood pure. Maybe all those ancient writings documenting this fit their biases. And maybe it is folly that Egyptians care about their history. Don't get snooty there kid. And btw, were those Roman and Greek writers that you mentioned writing about the actual Cleopatra? Or what? And when did they write any of that? And how can we access any of it? And with all that inbreeding going on how can we be sure of anything concerning Egypt's history? Sepiatone
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Post by kims on May 25, 2023 18:51:23 GMT
I was agreeing. Start with CAMBRIDGE ANCIENT HISTORY-it's in English and it's many volumes. Larger libraries will have it. Sorry, don't understand inbreeding and not being sure of anything concerning Egypt history. Ministry of Antiquities is on Facebook. I'm not on Facebook, so I don't know what information they show. You can also write them-I don't remember if they have an email contact on their web page. At your library, someone there can direct you to any English translations of the ancient Roman or Greek writers. You can write to universities with archeology depts and ancient languages.
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Post by marysara1 on May 25, 2023 19:33:28 GMT
My teacher taught us about the brother sister marriage. Something about them being gods and only marrying other gods. I remember the Julie Andrews movie Hawaii. Her minister husband really got mad about it.
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Post by sepiatone on May 26, 2023 16:23:06 GMT
Going way back concerning Britain's royal family, it's understood there too a lot of inbreeding was done. Which might explain a lot of things. And it never is just brother/sister. It's also Father/daughter, Mother/son, Brother/sister/ Aunt/nephew, etc, etc. Ew-w-w.......... Sepiatone
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Post by nipkowdisc on Jun 4, 2023 7:44:11 GMT
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Post by nipkowdisc on Jun 4, 2023 7:47:55 GMT
and she did not have an asp bite her rather she poisoned herself.
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Post by topbilled on Jun 4, 2023 13:54:47 GMT
and she did not have an asp bite her rather she poisoned herself. Nip,
I moved your two recent posts into this thread, so we can keep all comments related to this topic together. Thanks!
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Post by Swithin on Jun 4, 2023 14:28:42 GMT
Going way back concerning Britain's royal family, it's understood there too a lot of inbreeding was done. Which might explain a lot of things. And it never is just brother/sister. It's also Father/daughter, Mother/son, Brother/sister/ Aunt/nephew, etc, etc. Ew-w-w.......... Sepiatone Speaking of incest, I read recently (everyone else might have known this) that the mother/son implied incest was much stronger in the book The Manchurian Candidate than it was in the movie. As of course it was also in Kings Row (father/daughter), though the implication is obvious in the movie. And of course it's the subject of the movie Angels and Insects (brother/sister). The best depiction of incest in Shakespeare is in Pericles, Prince of Tyre. Very explicit: Antiochus and his daughter. Shakespeare emphasizes that by not even giving the character a name, she's merely called "The Daughter of Antiochus." The play Tis Pity She's a Whore is a Jacobean play of which incest is the subject (brother/sister). The latter is referenced in a Midsomer Murders episode ("The Killings at Badgers Drift"), when the phrase "Just like poor Annabella" is used. Annabella is the sister in Tis Pity She's a Whore, so a reference to incest in the village, which gives a hint to the murder.
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Post by Swithin on Jun 27, 2023 3:05:52 GMT
And then there's this:
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