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Post by kims on Apr 18, 2023 1:00:33 GMT
I agree selling the rights to a book should include some control. Late sixties film industry went crazy like John Haase points out. At this time authors probably knew liberties would be taken, but probably didn't think their book would become closer to an LSD trip than hints of the original book.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 18, 2023 1:36:25 GMT
probably didn't think their book would become closer to an LSD trip than hints of the original book. Oh dear, I can't stop laughing at your phrasing. After I posted my original comments I started wondering how much money might have to do with the type of conditions an author would accept. If they were caught at a weak moment financially or one offer was much higher than another it could be tempting. I wouldn't like to think they had trusted but not verified promises made about cinematic execution. |
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 18, 2023 1:46:01 GMT
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 18, 2023 15:38:10 GMT
Thanks for the warning. I read PETULIA but never did get around to seeing the movie. I really couldn't tell you why. But often when I read a book, I do conjure mental images, based on the author's descriptions, particular actors or actresses as the main players in the book. In this case I didn't envision Scott in that role. But it's been so long since I read it I can't remember who I did. And of course that's all reversed if I see the movie before ever reading the book.  Then what they've done to the story is what matters. Sepiatone |
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 19, 2023 1:19:07 GMT
April 18, 2023 - Holocaust Remembrance DayHow do you make a film about incomprehensible events? April 18, 1975 - Jacob the Liar released in GDR cinemas April 18, 1978 - Holocaust (tv miniseries) airs on NBC
  Brodský, Beyer and others, premiere of Jacob the Liar Jacob the Liar was never expected to be a commercial success. Only 17 copies of the film were released and a merely 89,279 tickets within the first thirteen weeks. In spite of this, Jacob the Liar became an international success: it was exported to twenty-five foreign states, a rare achievement for an East German film. Jacob the Liar illustrates Mark Twain's observation that courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, and not the absence of fear'" - Abraham H. Weiler, New York Times
It pays no tribute to history's victors, only to its victim. By turning the negatives into positives, Beyer conveys a story of hope and makes the impact of Jakob's lie on ghetto life tangible. - Daniela Berghahn
April 16, 17, 18, 19, in 1978
Holocaust (tv miniseries) Presented in four parts on NBC  Part 1: The Gathering Darkness (original airdate: April 16, 1978) Part 2: The Road to Babi Yar (original airdate: April 17, 1978) Part 3: The Final Solution (original airdate: April 18, 1978) Part 4: The Saving Remnant (original airdate: April 19, 1978) Even though the miniseries won several awards, and it also received positive reviews, it was also criticized. In The New York Times, Holocaust survivor and political activist Elie Wiesel wrote that it was: "Untrue, offensive, cheap: As a TV production, the film is an insult to those who perished and to those who survived." However, the series played a major role in public debates on the Holocaust and its impact has been described as "enormous".
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 19, 2023 15:43:27 GMT
I never did get around to seeing THE HOLOCAUST. And all I remember is the big fuss made about cast member TOVAH FELDSHUH, who hasn't been heard of much after that.
Sepiatone
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 20, 2023 1:48:12 GMT
I remember that series being big appointment television at the time, like Roots or the big soap operas like The Thorn Birds. I bought the DVDs a while back but had no idea it was so controversial when I watched it decades later.
It certainly isn't the best movie on the topic but it was interesting trying to find a couple released April 18.
I wish I could find a comprehensive list but there just doesn't seem to be one that captures them all - drama and documentary.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 20, 2023 1:50:28 GMT
April 19, 1927
Mae West jailed on this day for obscenity
 Actress Mae West found guilty of “obscenity and corrupting the morals of youth” in a New York stage play entitled "Sex". She is sentenced to 10 days in prison and fined $500, the resulting publicity launches her Hollywood career. When “Sex” had been running eleven months New York became strait-laced over night, and “The Captive,” “The Virgin Man,” and “Sex” were brought to task. The first two plays closed before the trial. Mae, however, stood trial, was sent to Welfare Island for twelve days, got a few hundred thousand dollars’ worth of free publicity, made friends with everyone on the place—and a few months later returned as a guest of honor.
“After ‘Sex,’ they wanted me to play a nun,” she said. “ ‘Show ’em you can be a good woman!’ they said. I did ‘Diamond Lil,’ just the opposite—gave people what they wanted. Once show people you’re afraid and you’re through. See?”
The Time Mae West Spent Eight Days in Jail www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/the-time-mae-west-spent-eight-days-in-jail/14642/ Mae West, the Queen of New York The writer and star of “Sex” and “Diamond Lil” is calm, clear, and eager for success.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/1928/11/10/mae-west-profile-diamond-lil
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 20, 2023 15:39:15 GMT
I remember that series being big appointment television at the time, like Roots or the big soap operas like The Thorn Birds. I bought the DVDs a while back but had no idea it was so controversial when I watched it decades later. It certainly isn't the best movie on the topic but it was interesting trying to find a couple released April 18. I wish I could find a comprehensive list but there just doesn't seem to be one that captures them all - drama and documentary. What I remember most about THE HOLOCAUST was that it represents one of the biggest disappointments and saddest moments in my life. Me, my ex and our kids were visiting my Grandfather(on my biodad's side) and were preparing to leave when one of the episodes of the mini series was just coming on. Out of nowhere, my Grandfather, a man I deeply loved and always thought was level headed and open minded said; "You know, (he said in his thick Polish accent) that Hitler guy had the right idea. Kill all them Goddam Jew bastards." Only to find out less than a year later the rest of that side of the family were all antisemitic racist white supremacists.  Sepiatone |
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Post by kims on Apr 20, 2023 19:20:32 GMT
Similar shock for me. All those reminders to be kind, fair, etc. to everyone and one day find out the definition of everyone in my family meant Anglo Saxon.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 21, 2023 2:47:42 GMT
I grew up in the most beautiful and welcoming Jewish neighbourhood. I have never met kinder people. They loved me and protected me, taught me how to play board games & bridge, celebrate passover, build a sukkaht, pick blueberries, sing silly hiking songs and the Fiddler on the Roof soundtrack.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 21, 2023 3:01:13 GMT
April 20, 1893Harold Lloyd was born in Burchard, Nebraska.
 Lloyd made nearly 200 comedy films, both silent and “talkies”, between 1914 and 1947. During the 1920s Harold’s features consistently earned in excess of a million dollars per movie. A great many of his early pictures were lost forever in a nitrate fire at his GreenAcres estate in 1943.  The grounds of GreenAcres were subsequently subdivided but the main house and the estate's principal gardens remain and are frequently used for civic fundraising events and as a filming location, appearing in films like Westworld and The Loved One. It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.  "When I adopted the glasses, it more or less put me in a different category because I became a human being. He was a kid that you would meet next door, across the street, but at the same time I could still do all the crazy things that we did before, but you believed them. They were natural and the romance could be believable." - Harold LloydClark Kent, I suppose, had a little Harold Lloyd in him. --Joe Shuster, Superman co-creator 
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 21, 2023 15:13:18 GMT
Similar shock for me. All those reminders to be kind, fair, etc. to everyone and one day find out the definition of everyone in my family meant Anglo Saxon. What wound up amusing me about all that was that 13 years after that Grandfather's death, when my Mother's side of the family went about observing my Great Grandfather's coming to America(1893) was when we learned, mostly by accident that he apparently changed his name before coming over to hide the fact he was a Polish Jew. And what we for generations thought was the family name really wasn't. I kept imagining my other Grandfather spinning in his grave like a turbine.  Sepiatone |
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Post by kims on Apr 21, 2023 17:36:41 GMT
My father's mother's family were Irish who in 1840 abandoned "the faith" for various reasons per her father when they immigrated. My grandmother's sister converted (back) in the 1920's causing friction with her sisters intent on social mobility. Aunt Laurie was dying in hospital with grandmother present. Laurie wanted a priest for the final rites but Grandmother adamantly refused to call a priest. Dad told me to take Grandmother home, then he brought a priest to Aunt Laurie. Hard to watch, heartbreaking to see the evil in my grandmother, wondered how my father managed to be compassionate with his upbringing. If you've ever watched PBS ROOTS, the geneology program- amazing what families held secret.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 22, 2023 3:12:38 GMT
Finding Your Roots is such an interesting program. Many skeletons in everyone's closet - and witches, scoundrels, royalty. I wonder if they have ever found anyone with a story too dull to tell? Not likely.
We used to have a version in Canada based on the British program Who Do You Think You Are?
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Then what they've done to the story is what matters.
