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Post by yanceycravat on Mar 28, 2023 3:47:00 GMT
I just realized next year MGM will be celebrating its 100th Anniversary. I wonder if TCM will give their films a month long tribute as well.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 28, 2023 5:38:08 GMT
They probably will...and they should.
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Post by cmovieviewer on Mar 28, 2023 8:14:57 GMT
I believe the WB 100th anniversary celebration is a marketing theme that was inspired in a ‘top down’ fashion by WB-Discovery corporate, since it involves multiple entities in the WB-Discovery company as a whole. Thus the dedication of the entire month of programming on TCM.
The difference in the MGM case is that MGM is not a part of the WB-Discovery company. TCM merely has special access to the MGM films up to a certain date in their production. If we are placing bets on what will happen, I agree that TCM will feature the anniversary, but I would expect it to be something like a special theme for the month, with maybe a day or two each week, but it will not be wall-to-wall like we see in April for the WB anniversary. So Eddie Muller should please not plan a vacation for April, 2024.
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Post by yanceycravat on Mar 28, 2023 14:10:46 GMT
I believe the WB 100th anniversary celebration is a marketing theme that was inspired in a ‘top down’ fashion by WB-Discovery corporate, since it involves multiple entities in the WB-Discovery company as a whole. Thus the dedication of the entire month of programming on TCM. The difference in the MGM case is that MGM is not a part of the WB-Discovery company. TCM merely has special access to the MGM films up to a certain date in their production. If we are placing bets on what will happen, I agree that TCM will feature the anniversary, but I would expect it to be something like a special theme for the month, with maybe a day or two each week, but it will not be wall-to-wall like we see in April for the WB anniversary. So Eddie Muller should please not plan a vacation for April, 2024. |
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Post by kims on Mar 28, 2023 15:59:05 GMT
TCM should have some sort of recognition for MGM. MGM during the earlier days of TV seems to have used it to market its films and promote itself, example MGM PARADE. I've wondered if MGM was the best studio or if its self promotion made me believe it was. Seeing WBD's promoting the centennial for WB makes a case that WB was as great. Maybe not all the stars in heaven, but great stories.
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Post by sepiatone on Mar 28, 2023 20:25:36 GMT
I just realized next year MGM will be celebrating its 100th Anniversary. I wonder if TCM will give their films a month long tribute as well. Probably will. And a safe bet it might get kicked off with a one night showing of "That's Entertainment" and "That's Entertainment 2". And KIMS------- WB did better at self promotion by prominently displaying it's iconic WB logo at the beginning of each Warner Brothers television production. Sepiatone |
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Post by kims on Mar 28, 2023 22:27:54 GMT
True, they had their logo out there, but MGM PARADE told about their great films and there are several I suppose trailers telling their coming films for the year and luncheon of all their stars which TCM shows regularly. IF WB did similar trailers, maybe they are lost.
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Post by gerald424 on Apr 4, 2023 3:52:50 GMT
Does anyone know who has the TV rights to the old MGM catalog ? That channel would probably be the one doing the celebration. Of course, if TCM wants to rent some films to do a celebrations also, I'm sure whomever is the rights holder would gladly do business.
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Post by topbilled on Apr 4, 2023 6:27:15 GMT
Does anyone know who has the TV rights to the old MGM catalog ? That channel would probably be the one doing the celebration. Of course, if TCM wants to rent some films to do a celebrations also, I'm sure whomever is the rights holder would gladly do business.
I should also add that there are some titles from various studios that are in the public domain so those are always available to broadcast.
The ones they have to go outside to lease are the titles from Paramount (1950 to present), Republic (now controlled by Paramount, which covers 1935 to 1959); Universal (which in addition to its own catalogue up to the present, also controls Paramount's catalogue up through 1949); Columbia (controlled by Sony); and 20th Century Fox (which includes 20th Century Pictures and early Fox films, all now controlled by Disney); as well as any Disney/Buena Vista titles.
Then there are British and other foreign films they sometimes lease for broadcast, though there are several British made pictures in the MGM/UA/WB/RKO batch.
Occasionally there are some films that were distributed through MGM/UA/WB/RKO, but were really independent productions whose rights reverted back to the original company and in some of those cases were sold to other studios. The 1949 film CAUGHT starring James Mason, which was distributed through MGM, is an example of this. The 1952 film COME FILL THE CUP, which was distributed through WB, is another example. So is the 1957 film PAJAMA GAME, which was distributed through WB, but is now owned by Paramount.
All of what I am saying is a long-winded way of explaining that if TCM does an anniversary retrospective for MGM next year, it will be fairly easy for them to schedule most of the classic MGM titles since they already have access to a lot of them. The only real exceptions are the ones that cannot be shown on cable television due to legal problems.
A few classic MGM titles that currently cannot be shown on cable TV or streaming platforms and cannot be released on DVD due to legal reasons include: LETTY LYNTON (1932) and JOE AND ETHEL TURP CALL ON THE PRESIDENT (1939). |
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 4, 2023 15:44:57 GMT
Thank TOP for clearly proving it would be proper to honor MGM on their 100th anniversary as they're doing now with Warner Brothers. They would be sorely remiss in any failure to do so. But my memory is kind of sketchy....
Did they do the same with UNITED ARTISTS in 2019? The year before it became defunct? I can't recall. And if not, why not?
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Post by topbilled on Apr 4, 2023 16:12:39 GMT
Thank TOP for clearly proving it would be proper to honor MGM on their 100th anniversary as they're doing now with Warner Brothers. They would be sorely remiss in any failure to do so. But my memory is kind of sketchy.... Did they do the same with UNITED ARTISTS in 2019? The year before it became defunct? I can't recall. And if not, why not? Sepiatone |
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Post by cmovieviewer on Apr 4, 2023 19:59:52 GMT
Just to confirm, TCM had a special theme for ‘100 Years of United Artists’ in September of 2019. They dedicated every Wednesday (daytime and primetime) to showing United Artists films.
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Post by topbilled on Apr 4, 2023 23:57:21 GMT
Just to confirm, TCM had a special theme for ‘100 Years of United Artists’ in September of 2019. They dedicated every Wednesday (daytime and primetime) to showing United Artists films. |
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 5, 2023 15:45:39 GMT
Yeah, thanks. My wife passed the previous December so I was still probably numb minded enough to not notice.
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