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Post by ando on Mar 18, 2023 14:52:53 GMT
Thanks to AppleMusic. Normally I’m flabbergasted at what tunes they collate for “My Station” but they lit the 🔥 I needed under my %#@ this morning with this Beethoven Piano Trio -
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Post by sepiatone on Mar 18, 2023 15:58:10 GMT
Ok, if you're comparing the current pop diva/r&b singer, Beyonce and the great empress of the Blues, Bessie Smith, I first have to ask, WHY? The only measure of comparison between the two for me is that they were both savvy entertainers in terms of reading and profiting from the industry. But in terms of artistry, Bessie Smith is eternal. Aside from Pops (Louis Armstrong) I can't think of another early 20th century musician who has inspired generations of musicians, writers and black artists of all kinds (certainly singers from Billie Holiday UP TO Beyonce). She's a gold standard. And to this day you can find her music in the collections of any serious lover of jazz and, certainly, blues music. If people are still on this planet they'll be listening to Bessie 500 years from now. But don't take my word for it - do a "Bessie Smith cover" search on YouTube and filter it for the last 30 days and you'll see just how influential she still is (results I got were in the hundreds). I highly doubt if Beyonce will be that relevant in 3033. Same goes for the music of Vaughan Williams, but not necessarily any particular interpretation unless - and this is highly likely - the only existing media featuring Vaughan Williams' work is Solti's version of it. You're apparently missing the point. The question was asked if anyone will be listening to Beyonce 100 years from now. And I was displaying that on a larger part, a 1923 recording of a Vaughn williams piece probably gets more "airplay" on radio than probably the Bessie Smith tune, Smith being a popular recorded singer 100 years ago. And too, maybe 100 years from now there might be "collectors" who focus on popular music from the late 20th century and early 21st. And Beyonce might be among their collection. That too also depends on whether or not there IS such a thing as "radio" or a reasonable facsimile of it 100 years in the future. Smith's influence on scores of others is well noted. One legend has it that it wasn't until the mid 1960's that her grave didn't have a proper marker until Janis Joplin(an obvious disciple) placed one. And that Bessie died of injuries from a car crash on the legendary Highway 61 just adds to her legendary allure. And we also can't discount the influence MA RAINEY had on a young Bessie and scores of others too.  Sepiatone |
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Post by ando on Mar 18, 2023 18:09:29 GMT
You're apparently missing the point. The question was asked if anyone will be listening to Beyonce 100 years from now. And I was displaying that on a larger part, a 1923 recording of a Vaughn williams piece probably gets more "airplay" on radio than probably the Bessie Smith tune, Smith being a popular recorded singer 100 years ago. And too, maybe 100 years from now there might be "collectors" who focus on popular music from the late 20th century and early 21st. And Beyonce might be among their collection. That too also depends on whether or not there IS such a thing as "radio" or a reasonable facsimile of it 100 years in the future. Sepiatone I haven't missed a thing. Of course, if someone wants to do research into the popular trends of any era they are likely to come up with results. That doesn't mean that the results reflect the current regard for the artists under question. As far as "airplay" is concerned classical music is no more a current popular commodity than old blues music. So your "large part" factor is negligible , not to speak of your "any quarters" dismissal. Your argument, in fact, is not a musical one, it's sociological. Further, it's based on personal taste and assumptions which you have not backed up with facts. I understand completely what you're implying. |
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Post by sepiatone on Mar 19, 2023 16:12:49 GMT
You sure? This whole thing started with you asking if people will be listening to either(Beyonce or Solti) 100 years from now and my simply implying that it would be more likely people would be hearing a classical piece conducted by Solti 100 years from now, my posting a 100 year old recording of Bessie Smith and a 100 year old recording of a Vaughn Williams piece since it's more likely there are more outlets playing classical music in most large metropolitan areas(there's four stations I can tune into in my area for classical music compared to a couple that might get around to spinning an old Smith platter) But that's mostly guesswork as there's no way of knowing how people will access music 100 years from now. But going by current trends, it's possible we'll be back to 78 rpm acetates by the end of the 2020's. And any retail audio outlets will be selling these-----   Sepiatone |
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Post by sepiatone on Mar 23, 2023 21:37:44 GMT
I always tear up when hearing this beautiful piece from Grieg's Peer Gynt made more beautiful with this young lady's exquisite voice,
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 25, 2023 5:48:10 GMT
Beautiful. Using the theory one can never have too much Grieg or Norwegian opera singers....
Solvieg's Song Kirsten Flagstad Grieg 1929
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 30, 2023 4:22:29 GMT
 Five planets — Mars, Uranus, Venus, Mercury and Jupiter — will be lined up in an arc and visible on the western horizon from almost anywhere on Earth.Last night as my eyes strained the horizon for the alignment a number of songs zipped across my radio dial: A Criminal Mind by Gowan, Venus by Bananarama and this one which sounded beautiful amongst the stars.... Debussy: Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune, L.86 I'm not sure what I saw up there beyond Venus and the Moon. This piece would have been great to hear but it did not appear...just like the planet. Gustav Holst - The Planets - Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity |
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Post by sepiatone on Mar 30, 2023 15:35:43 GMT
And sadly too, it seems that when looking beyond Venus that this one didn't show up too.....
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 30, 2023 15:56:01 GMT
This movie looks so interesting from the clip perspective but the trailer? Not so much.
Have you seen it? Thumbs up or down?
Interlude (1968) Barbara Ferris Oskar Werner John Cleese
Interlude (1968) Trailer
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Post by sepiatone on Mar 30, 2023 16:04:11 GMT
Have I seen it? Nope.
But from a classical music viewpoint, not so interesting.
From an overused movie trope perspective?
Even less so.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 14, 2023 1:06:40 GMT
The MASH thread reminded me of the touching documentary Seymour: An Introduction (2014).
The clip below doesn't really do his Korean War experiences justice. In the movie when he talks about how the classical concerts he performed impacted the soldiers it is quite a moment.
Seymour Bernstein Returns to Korea - Encore performance by UN veterans after 60 years
Seymour: An Introduction (2014) - Official Trailer
Meet Seymour Bernstein: a virtuoso pianist, veteran New Yorker, and true original who gave up a successful concert career to teach music. In this wonderfully warm, witty, and intimate tribute from his friend, Ethan Hawke, Seymour shares unforgettable stories from his remarkable life and eye-opening words of wisdom, as well as insightful reflections on art, creativity, and the search for fulfillment. A “poignant guide to life” and an engaging exploration on the dedication, perseverance, and fortitude essential to creating both art and a rewarding life, Seymour: An Introduction will leave audiences uplifted and inspired.
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Post by sepiatone on Apr 20, 2023 16:29:28 GMT
Saw Jorge Bolet perform this concerto with the DSO in the late '70's.
What I always liked about Bolet is he looks more like the "heavy" in a 1930's gangster movie than an excellent concert pianist. But excellent he is.
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Post by BunnyWhit on Jun 1, 2023 15:49:14 GMT
Tchaikovsky very often makes me smile, but I do believe this is the first time he made me laugh outright.
Take a few minutes to enjoy slow motion baby goats and "Waltz of the Flowers" from The Nutcracker.
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Post by sepiatone on Jun 2, 2023 16:01:55 GMT
I always thought this Fantasia conception of The Nutcracker's "China Dance" was kinda cute.
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Post by sepiatone on Jul 25, 2023 15:58:14 GMT
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