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Post by nipkowdisc on Jan 3, 2023 0:02:26 GMT
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Post by yanceycravat on Jan 3, 2023 3:55:57 GMT
Meh.
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Post by sepiatone on Jan 3, 2023 18:15:33 GMT
Doesn't really do anything to enhance the impact of the movie or the plot. Sorry.
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Post by marysara1 on Jan 4, 2023 18:56:24 GMT
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Post by sepiatone on Jan 5, 2023 17:04:29 GMT
Wow Mary....... I noticed one of the guys in that ogling crowd had ORANGE eyes! But we're not supposed to notice that, eh? Sepiatone
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Post by Janet on Jan 8, 2023 18:56:44 GMT
The insides of the mouth is what freaks me out the most. Black and white teeth. And the color of the rest of her fades in and out. I doubt there is anything out there that has been colorized that will ever convince me it was ever a good idea.
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Jan 8, 2023 23:46:55 GMT
The insides of the mouth is what freaks me out the most. Black and white teeth. And the color of the rest of her fades in and out. I doubt there is anything out there that has been colorized that will ever convince me it was ever a good idea. What about the point that many people will not watch a B&W film so in order to get people to see some great studio-era historical films, they "need to be" colorized. I agree that from an artistic POV there is NO reason to colorize a film. It isn't a "good idea" from an artistic POV, period. But from a marketing one or even just to ensure great films are not forgotten there might be reasons to colorize. That being said, I still have the POV that if one rejects a film just because it is B&W, they are the ones missing out and no accommodations should be made for such misguided folks.
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Post by Lucky Dan on Jan 9, 2023 1:45:50 GMT
The insides of the mouth is what freaks me out the most. Black and white teeth. And the color of the rest of her fades in and out. I doubt there is anything out there that has been colorized that will ever convince me it was ever a good idea. What about the point that many people will not watch a B&W film so in order to get people to see some great studio-era historical films, they "need to be" colorized. I agree that from an artistic POV there is NO reason to colorize a film. It isn't a "good idea" from an artistic POV, period. But from a marketing one or even just to ensure great films are not forgotten there might be reasons to colorize. That being said, I still have the POV that if one rejects a film just because it is B&W, they are the ones missing out and no accommodations should be made for such misguided folks. I wonder if colorization itself hasn't become a stale idea. Those who used to say they weren't interested in black and white movies, or even photographs, often objected because they felt monochrome was low budget, behind-the-times, or unrealistic. (Realism, or being "true-to-life," was valued in the 70s and 80s as I recall.) People who looked to movies for entertainment wanted something new and good. You could colorize an old movie, sure, but after the tech novelty wore off, you were still left with an old movie, where all the actors were dead. Technology has advanced - I saw some very well-done colorization of World War II footage on YouTube overnight that mixed colorized figures in the foreground with black and white surrounding them - but still we are talking about old footage that is just getting older. Yes, we appreciate it, but many just ... don't. Many people have come to consider almost everything from the past, including (maybe especially) the entertainment, suspect. They might be more agreeable to new black and white photography today than they were forty years ago, but colorizing something from 1950 won't trick them into believing what they are seeing has more relevance than they thought.
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Jan 9, 2023 16:27:29 GMT
Lucky Dan makes some very solid points; It is highly likely people that say they don't watch "old B&W movies" do so mainly because, like most people, they are actor\director driven; I.e. they want to watch a film where they know at least some of the actors, or the director etc... Thus a film like Leave Her to Heaven is just as un-interesting to them, as a B&W film from the same era.
As for Technology; I just happened to watch part of The Lion King, and at first I wondered if this was the nature channel. It looked so real (well until the Dad lion and cub starting talking!). I really liked that look (while Avatar doesn't impress me as much, but I know is vouge with most others).
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Post by sepiatone on Jan 11, 2023 16:52:21 GMT
My younger daughter(now 47) took a while to at least tolerate B&W movies. Started by really liking the 1951 SCROOGE (aka;A Christmas Carol) starring Alistair Sim and a couple years later watching my copy of '73's PAPER MOON. In recent talks with her I asked if she'd like each better if they were colorized and she strongly disagreed. Like me, she too felt the Scrooge film gave the impression it was actually filmed in 1835, given the set designs, lighting and being in Black and White. In color, she said, would have made it look like they simply filmed a stage play in the theater. In past discussions on this I wondered why didn't somebody develop a system in which well known classic movies shot in color would go through a process that would "uncolorize" them? After all, fair IS fair. Sepiatone
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