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Post by topbilled on Dec 2, 2023 21:11:40 GMT
In our current Programming Challenge thread, one of the items is a Celebrity Crush Star of the Month.
I humorously ask...is it healthy to have crushes on dead stars? I wonder if psychologists have done studies about this!
Obviously, some crushes are fairly innocent...but then there are other crushes that can become a bit obsessive. Also, not to sound vulgar, but what does it mean when a modern viewer gets sexually aroused (maybe even has a sexually explicit dream) after watching someone on screen...someone who was "hot" eighty years ago?
After all, isn't that part of the ongoing appeal of James Dean..? If he had not been attractive, would people be as interested in him?
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Post by kims on Dec 2, 2023 21:46:20 GMT
The crush is with who you think the actor is. Most people have not met the actor to know if they have a crush on the actor.
I don't know if there has been a study of crushes on dead actors. In a college psych class, we covered a treatise on daydreaming. In 1972 the verdict was daydreaming was mostly healthy, escape from boring routine tasks and possibly led to a creative new solution to some situation.
To be silly, there probably isn't enough room in psych wards for everyone with a crush for someone dead.
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Post by gerald424 on Dec 2, 2023 22:56:33 GMT
I think it's quite healthy as long as you remember you are fond of the image that actor projected. Not the actual person. The image of an Elvis or Cary Grant or a Marilyn Monroe is what people get excited about.
That's why some of these bio pics don't do well. People don't really care about the negative things that happened in their lives. Just the glitz and glamour. |
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Post by Broadway on Dec 6, 2023 17:48:29 GMT
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. I think having a crush on a dead celebrity is the same as having a crush on a living one. Like many have already said, the vast majority of the time, the person with the crush has never actually met the object of their affection, so it is really their perception of the person with which they are enamored. They will likely never even meet the person, so it really doesn't matter if they are still on this corporeal plane or not. Eckhart Tolle says, "To love is to recognize yourself in another," and I truly believe that to be the basis of almost all attraction. For example, if you love James Dean('s image) for being rebellious yet sensitive, I think it's because somewhere deep down, you are like that, too. Maybe you don't express it fully, or have learned to not express it, but it's there somewhere. So a person can find parts of themselves in anyone. They don't have to be alive. If we have never met a person, there is likely some amount of projection involved as well, but that is still about finding parts of your true being in someone else.
As for pure aesthetic attraction, I suppose it is the same as finding a painting or a sunset beautiful. A person may have a beautiful/handsome face to you, and they no longer need to be alive for you to find a past image of them aesthetically pleasing.
I grant that my opinion may be a tad naive due to my life experiences, or lack thereof as the case may be.
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Dec 6, 2023 19:14:17 GMT
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. I think having a crush on a dead celebrity is the same as having a crush on a living one. Like many have already said, the vast majority of the time, the person with the crush has never actually met the object of their affection, so it is really their perception of the person with which they are enamored. They will likely never even meet the person, so it really doesn't matter if they are still on this corporeal plane or not. Eckhart Tolle says, "To love is to recognize yourself in another," and I truly believe that to be the basis of almost all attraction. For example, if you love James Dean('s image) for being rebellious yet sensitive, I think it's because somewhere deep down, you are like that, too. Maybe you don't express it fully, or have learned to not express it, but it's there somewhere. So a person can find parts of themselves in anyone. They don't have to be alive. If we have never met a person, there is likely some amount of projection involved as well, but that is still about finding parts of your true being in someone else.
As for pure aesthetic attraction, I suppose it is the same as finding a painting or a sunset beautiful. A person may have a beautiful/handsome face to you, and they no longer need to be alive for you to find a past image of them aesthetically pleasing.
I grant that my opinion may be a tad naive due to my life experiences, or lack thereof as the case may be.
As you said no one really knows the person (alive or dead), they mostly "know them" from their screen persona and what they read in the media related to their personal live. There are also talk-shows. Some believe this is where someone is more "real" (themselves), but with actors I don't know if that was true. I.e. they are acting. The talk-show is a public performance designed to promote themselves and what work they are in. I have worked very hard over the last 2 or so decades to not have strong feelings, one way or the other, about any celebrity (actor, musician, athlete, writer). This is a common debate with my friends who believe I'm being phony. I.e. if one is human, one has to have such feelings. I try to limit my feelings strictly on their work. (Other than crushes strictly based on sexually attraction). |
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Post by Andrea Doria on Dec 6, 2023 19:46:25 GMT
Anytime I've had a crush on an actor it's really been on a character he played. For instance, I had a crush on Kevin Costner after seeing, "The Untouchables." Such an honest and brave man during they day, so sweet and gentle with his wife in the evening, (brushing her hair!)
Then I saw him in other roles and got over it.
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Post by marysara1 on Dec 6, 2023 19:48:43 GMT
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. I think having a crush on a dead celebrity is the same as having a crush on a living one. Like many have already said, the vast majority of the time, the person with the crush has never actually met the object of their affection, so it is really their perception of the person with which they are enamored. They will likely never even meet the person, so it really doesn't matter if they are still on this corporeal plane or not. Eckhart Tolle says, "To love is to recognize yourself in another," and I truly believe that to be the basis of almost all attraction. For example, if you love James Dean('s image) for being rebellious yet sensitive, I think it's because somewhere deep down, you are like that, too. Maybe you don't express it fully, or have learned to not express it, but it's there somewhere. So a person can find parts of themselves in anyone. They don't have to be alive. If we have never met a person, there is likely some amount of projection involved as well, but that is still about finding parts of your true being in someone else.
As for pure aesthetic attraction, I suppose it is the same as finding a painting or a sunset beautiful. A person may have a beautiful/handsome face to you, and they no longer need to be alive for you to find a past image of them aesthetically pleasing.
I grant that my opinion may be a tad naive due to my life experiences, or lack thereof as the case may be.
As you said no one really knows the person (alive or dead), they mostly "know them" from their screen persona and what they read in the media related to their personal live. There are also talk-shows. Some believe this is where someone is more "real" (themselves), but with actors I don't know if that was true. I.e. they are acting. The talk-show is a public performance designed to promote themselves and what work they are in. I have worked very hard over the last 2 or so decades to not have strong feelings, one way or the other, about any celebrity (actor, musician, athlete, writer). This is a common debate with my friends who believe I'm being phony. I.e. if one is human, one has to have such feelings. I try to limit my feelings strictly on their work. (Other than crushes strictly based on sexually attraction). |
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Post by marysara1 on Dec 6, 2023 19:58:00 GMT
I remember Donny Osmond was warned not to get married. It disappointed his fan base.
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