|
Post by topbilled on Nov 12, 2022 19:57:59 GMT
How do you define a western?
Here's how I define it:
A drama along the American frontier between 1864 and 1890.
I do not think Civil War films are westerns. Those are part of a sub-genre of the war film. But if something is set in the west during the post-war period and references the Civil War, that's okay.
Also, I do not count "colonial westerns" which means anything set along the frontier before the Civil War. Those would just be plain old historical dramas, or historical adventures.
Anything set in the last decade of the 1800s (1890 to 1900) tends to be about the industrial age, and while traces of western life may still exist, those would not be pure westerns.
Stories set in the countryside from 1900 to 1939 I consider rural dramas. Things like horse racing dramas or depression era dramas.
If there is a story set after WWII in the countryside, I just consider it a rural drama or a contemporary western.
Basically my idea of a western, again, is a frontier drama set in 1864 to 1890, where automobiles and telephones do not exist and we see how the American west and southwest are being settled after the Civil War. If characters travel into Mexico that would be okay, provided most of the action takes place north of the border, in the United States. A story that is set entirely in Mexico during this time period, I would not consider a western about life along the American frontier.
Frontier westerns include mining stories, stories about fugitives, stories about mail order brides, stories about the U.S. Army's dealings with the native tribes, stories about lawless towns that find law and order, those types of things.
What do you say? How do you define a western?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 21:08:43 GMT
My favorite Western is Back To The Future III. I would type my fingers to the bone to explain, but it's all there. Okay, reality and satire in the same flick. If you know your BTTF details, the third and final film takes Doc Brown 100 years back to 1885. Wikipedia does cover all the bases and saves me a ton of typing. Here it is from Vudu, including the trailer. Low quality but shows the good stuff.
|
|
|
Post by ando on Nov 12, 2022 23:36:31 GMT
How do you define a western?
Here's how I define it:
A drama along the American frontier between 1864 and 1890.
Sounds good to me, TB. I think any film worth watching wears labels lightly, but here's a very good (scholarly) video survey which includes specific parameters of the genre:
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 17:31:12 GMT
My favorite Western would have to be Rooster Cogburn (and the Lady). Filmed in part in Oregon is one reason. They rafted down the Rogue River.
|
|
|
Post by nipkowdisc on Nov 15, 2022 4:59:19 GMT
|
|
|
Post by topbilled on Nov 19, 2022 2:54:30 GMT
How do you define a western?
Here's how I define it:
A drama along the American frontier between 1864 and 1890.
Sounds good to me, TB. I think any film worth watching wears labels lightly, but here's a very good (scholarly) video survey which includes specific parameters of the genre: Thanks for sharing.
|
|
|
Post by ando on Nov 27, 2022 15:40:17 GMT
Thought I'd post this interesting review which covers Ford's Stagecoach and how the director "saved" the genre -
|
|
|
Post by gerald424 on Dec 1, 2022 21:15:42 GMT
How do you define a western?
Here's how I define it:
A drama along the American frontier between 1864 and 1890.
What you described is basically the timeline of the Texas Cattle Drives. I guess one could make the argument that it was those drives and the culture around them are what made up the idea of the cowboy and hence: The Western. But, I'm sure that most fans would say any film having to do with that Alamo would be considered a Western. Yet, its a war set in 1836. link(Not sure how to do links yet. so this may not work.)
|
|
|
Post by topbilled on Dec 1, 2022 21:21:59 GMT
How do you define a western?
Here's how I define it:
A drama along the American frontier between 1864 and 1890.
What you described is basically the timeline of the Texas Cattle Drives. I guess one could make the argument that it was those drives and the culture around them are what made up the idea of the cowboy and hence: The Western. But, I'm sure that most fans would say any film having to do with that Alamo would be considered a Western. Yet, its a war set in 1836. link(Not sure how to do links yet. so this may not work.) Great comment. And yes, your link worked.
|
|