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Post by I Love Melvin on Dec 7, 2023 13:52:53 GMT
Melvin, you mention something that I've noticed as well in other films of all sorts: actors who can't wear period wardrobe. It's a fascinating phenomenon. Why do some actors always look modern in period outfits? Is it physical or an actor who can't acclimate to the clothing? I think you're right to point the finger at something bigger than the clothes themselves as being the problem. Overall styling can be an issue too, specifically hair and makeup; the people responsible for those sometimes seemingly can't help putting a more modern spin on their looks. And maybe costumes are made of more modern materials, which can account for them looking somehow "off". Actors on television especially don't have as long a time to inhabit their characters, so that could be part of it, but I also think sometimes actors don't really even try, thinking that the clothes themselves will do all the heavy lifting. And if you add a producer or director who isn't paying attention to that stuff, it's not going to work. I can't remember specific examples, but I know over the years I've heard actresses commenting on the "underthings" they were given to wear in period roles; even though the audience would never see it, they (the actresses) would know. Without top-to-bottom consensus on matters like costuming there's a good chance it won't look right. And, like you said, the clothes just don't seem to "fit" certain actors. When I watch something like Chinatown (1974), I believe that Faye Dunaway, otherwise a very modern-seeming actress, is from the period in which the story is set, because everyone involved wanted it that way, as well as her singular ability to carry it off, which, to your point, not everyone has.
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Post by NoShear on Dec 7, 2023 16:54:37 GMT
>>>>>WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON HERE!<<<<<< >>>>>WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON HERE!<<<<<< >>>>>WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON HERE!<<<<<< Does Top Billed know about this clandestine meeting spot? (perhaps what caused him to be under the weather) I feel like I have just found all the naughty rebellious cool kids on the secret smoking patio out back of the high school. Here am I, minding my own business, trying to get caught up on all I have missed, harvesting the low hanging fruit like Holiday items, innocently wondering why we hopped from Hallowe'en to Xmas... When what to my wondering eyes should appear but closet Hallmark heretics? I mean guilty pleasures, yes, of course, we all have them....but Hallmark!!!! And so now instead of finishing It's Love I'm After, I am watching A Cozy Christmas Inn on TV. (filmed in Utah apparently but I do feel like the majority are filmed here in The Great White North to get 70 cents on the dollar...and tax incentives) THIS IS ALL TOO FASCINATING, fun and ridiculous. I am surprised you haven't hidden your true avatar identities or used the 'post as guest' shenanigan. What haunts me about this genre.... It takes just as much effort: To light for a good movie To do hair and make-up for a good movie To build sets for a good movie To write a script for a good movie It seems like a bit of a waste of time to make such forgettable seemingly empty films. But I have determined there must be an audience of those who do not want to go too deep Who don't want any question marks Who want to keep it simple And considering the number of people that are employed by such simplicity, I have come to terms with such art forms (cough) Laughing: Genius, galacticgirrl.
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Post by kims on Dec 9, 2023 8:08:58 GMT
I confessed about Hallmark films, I'll go a step further: Anyone else watch Santa's progress on NORAD on Christmas Eve? Rudolph's shiny nose, the presents floating from the sleigh to earth, learning city names of foreign countries. (the last is the rationalization for a senior watching Santa, in case you didn't recognize it)
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Post by Fading Fast on Dec 9, 2023 11:52:04 GMT
I confessed about Hallmark films, I'll go a step further: Anyone else watch Santa's progress on NORAD on Christmas Eve? Rudolph's shiny nose, the presents floating from the sleigh to earth, learning city names of foreign countries. (the last is the rationalization for a senior watching Santa, in case you didn't recognize it) My girlfriend and I used to when our nephews were younger and agree it's fun. We've gotten out of the habit, but maybe we'll do it again this year now that you reminded us.
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Post by kims on Dec 16, 2023 19:38:23 GMT
As I anxiously await NORAD's Santa tracker to begin 12/24, and while I'm still rehab-ing, recovering from surgery and not able to do much, I realize that I haven't paid enough attention to Hallmark films to know what the meaning of Christmas is according to them.
Being forced into a sedate existence, my mind wandered to consider what I think the meaning of Christmas is. There's the Christmas of Santa Claus with all the media/commercial traditions and I leave that to Hallmark.
Then there is the religious. For me it's a time of reflection and reminding myself that we were taught to forgive, but with a condition. When the woman was caught in the act of adultery, Jesus asked for reflection by those about to stone her: who has no sin cast the first stone. The condition was when Jesus told the woman her sins were forgiven AND added: Go and sin no more. That is a tough lesson to remember year round, but I regroup and try again for another year to remember that everybody does not have to think like me; that most often there is little value in telling people what I really think; and I don't have to love everybody, only that I'm not entitled to dislike or hurt someone because I disagree. Forgive, but people are not truly forgiven until they stop the transgression.
It's a bit early, but Merry Christmas and keep watching movies.
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Post by I Love Melvin on Dec 17, 2023 18:57:57 GMT
As I anxiously await NORAD's Santa tracker to begin 12/24, and while I'm still rehab-ing, recovering from surgery and not able to do much, I realize that I haven't paid enough attention to Hallmark films to know what the meaning of Christmas is according to them. Being forced into a sedate existence, my mind wandered to consider what I think the meaning of Christmas is. There's the Christmas of Santa Claus with all the media/commercial traditions and I leave that to Hallmark. Then there is the religious. For me it's a time of reflection and reminding myself that we were taught to forgive, but with a condition. When the woman was caught in the act of adultery, Jesus asked for reflection by those about to stone her: who has no sin cast the first stone. The condition was when Jesus told the woman her sins were forgiven AND added: Go and sin no more. That is a tough lesson to remember year round, but I regroup and try again for another year to remember that everybody does not have to think like me; that most often there is little value in telling people what I really think; and I don't have to love everybody, only that I'm not entitled to dislike or hurt someone because I disagree. Forgive, but people are not truly forgiven until they stop the transgression. It's a bit early, but Merry Christmas and keep watching movies. So much about Christmas is focused on the revelry, which is Hallmark's sweet spot, with all the hometown Christmas Festivals, holiday markets and Christmas Eve dances which need resuscitating because Grandma's getting too old to do it. But you're right to see it as a time of reflection. My faith isn't as strong as yours, I don't think, but I do believe it's "the greatest story ever told", with all the values we need to emulate, depending on our own ability to focus on them and put them into action, regardless of anyone else's. There are rare people who can find the right words to change hearts and minds; I'm not one of them but I understand we have to lift up those voices when they speak. Did you mention what the surgery was for? If you did, I missed it, but don't worry about having missed out on Hallmark's "message", because it's about the same as it's been in all the decades they've been on the air. Feel free to forget those dopes for the time being and give your best energy to the rehab. Come back strong, OK?
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Post by kims on Dec 17, 2023 22:27:54 GMT
No, Melvin, I haven't specified. Briefly this has been five months of treatment because the first specialists misdiagnosed. But besides lots of pain, it is humorous. I have a dog with neurological problems causing him to be mostly crippled. I carry him outside while temporarily crippled myself. It is a funny sight, especially me talking to the dog who is also deaf. I have moments wondering if I'll be checked in for observation for talking to said deaf dog and talking out loud such gems as "I can do this" and telling this floppy dog "Hold on, here we go"
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Post by I Love Melvin on Dec 18, 2023 0:36:45 GMT
No, Melvin, I haven't specified. Briefly this has been five months of treatment because the first specialists misdiagnosed. But besides lots of pain, it is humorous. I have a dog with neurological problems causing him to be mostly crippled. I carry him outside while temporarily crippled myself. It is a funny sight, especially me talking to the dog who is also deaf. I have moments wondering if I'll be checked in for observation for talking to said deaf dog and talking out loud such gems as "I can do this" and telling this floppy dog "Hold on, here we go" If there's any humor at all in a situation, a dog will help you find it. Forgive me for chuckling but I've got a deaf dog myself so I know the absurd lengths you have to go to to get a point across. I'm glad you're there for each other. If there's anything Hallmarky which absolutely demands your attention (doubtful) we'll let you know; otherwise just chill.
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Post by NoShear on Dec 24, 2023 16:57:21 GMT
As I anxiously await NORAD's Santa tracker to begin 12/24, and while I'm still rehab-ing, recovering from surgery and not able to do much, I realize that I haven't paid enough attention to Hallmark films to know what the meaning of Christmas is according to them. Being forced into a sedate existence, my mind wandered to consider what I think the meaning of Christmas is. There's the Christmas of Santa Claus with all the media/commercial traditions and I leave that to Hallmark. Then there is the religious. For me it's a time of reflection and reminding myself that we were taught to forgive, but with a condition. When the woman was caught in the act of adultery, Jesus asked for reflection by those about to stone her: who has no sin cast the first stone. The condition was when Jesus told the woman her sins were forgiven AND added: Go and sin no more. That is a tough lesson to remember year round, but I regroup and try again for another year to remember that everybody does not have to think like me; that most often there is little value in telling people what I really think; and I don't have to love everybody, only that I'm not entitled to dislike or hurt someone because I disagree. Forgive, but people are not truly forgiven until they stop the transgression. It's a bit early, but Merry Christmas and keep watching movies. Santa was last seen passing over New Delhi as I type: I hope he has a "Feeling Much Better" gift with your name on it, kims... Merry Christmas.
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Post by kims on Dec 25, 2023 0:02:10 GMT
He's heading towards Faroe Island (near Greenland). About the best Santa can do for me is coal in the stocking of the nurse Rachet home health sends to change bandages. Her comeuppance comes a different holiday. Thank you for the concern.
Merry Christmas to all-I'm about to put ELOISE AT CHRISTMASTIME in the dvd player. Hallmark used to run it. Hearing Julie Andrews voice after the botched surgery is jolting, but bless her courage to sing anyway.
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Post by BingFan on Dec 25, 2023 17:27:33 GMT
He's heading towards Faroe Island (near Greenland). About the best Santa can do for me is coal in the stocking of the nurse Rachet home health sends to change bandages. Her comeuppance comes a different holiday. Thank you for the concern. Merry Christmas to all-I'm about to put ELOISE AT CHRISTMASTIME in the dvd player. Hallmark used to run it. Hearing Julie Andrews voice after the botched surgery is jolting, but bless her courage to sing anyway. Thanks for mentioning ELOISE AT CHRISTMASTIME. My wife and I first saw it on Hallmark several years ago and liked it so much that we bought the DVD. We’ve been enjoying a semi-annual viewing since then. Last year, we tracked down the DVD of the related ELOISE AT THE PLAZA, which provides similar fun (albeit not involving Christmas) and introduces the characters that were in the slightly later CHRISTMASTIME movie. In both movies, Julie Andrews doesn’t sing much, but she seems to be enjoying her role as Eloise’s nanny. And the young girl who plays Eloise is outstanding, as are the supporting actors (Jeffrey Tambor among them).
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Post by kims on Dec 26, 2023 2:50:47 GMT
I didn't know there was an ELOISE AT THE PLAZA. I see another dvd purchase in my future.
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Post by Fading Fast on Nov 14, 2024 12:13:29 GMT
I've watched more Hallmark Christmas movies than I care to admit and you just named one of the best ones. I was disappointed that Jamie King didn't do more Hallmark movies after that one.
There is also a somewhat similar one where a married couple, who is planning to break up, fakes that they are still happily married to make it a nice Christmas for the family. I think it came out in the past few years, but I can't remember the name or the actors in it, but it definitely was a cut above the usual Hallmark fare. By chance, do you know the one I'm talking about? Yes, I kept waiting for Jaime King to do more too. She really stood out from the pack. Someone who stood out recently was Rachel Skarsten as a newly installed charter flight pilot whose first charter (and potential permanent gig) was forced down by weather off the Canadian coast, stranding some very demanding clients on their way to Europe. I bought every syllable that came out of her mouth, needless to say an extreme rarity for Hallmark movies. She was cast opposite Andrew Walker, who's probably the best of the guys in the Hallmark "family". I'll be looking forward to seeing her again the same way I did Jamie King, I hope with better results. ... Hi, it's a year later and our girl Rachel Skarsten is back in a new 2024 Hallmark Christmas movie that I just watched called "The Christmas Charade." I like it better than "Christmas Island." As you noted, there is a genuineness to her. This time, she's a librarian who is reluctantly recruited to be a spy in a Christmas "caper" movie. Corey Sevier - another Hallmark regular and a pretty good one - is her costar. It's an okay story - definitely a cut above the average Hallmark one - and Skarsten makes it even better. If you get a chance to watch it - Hallmark will run it several times between now and Christmas - please let me know what you think.
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Post by kims on Nov 16, 2024 15:09:52 GMT
Just watched CHRISTMAS CHARADE. Another good one.
There was an ad for tonight's JINGLE BELL RUN. Andrew Walker is featured, so it's a must see. Even if the story is weak, Walker gives his characters depth and makes his films a cut above.
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Post by The OG on Nov 16, 2024 18:53:16 GMT
While I've never seen a Hallmark Christmas movie, I did see an ad for "the first-ever Hallmark Christmas Experience" in Kansas City, Missouri. Sounds like a Comic-Con combined with a Christmas market. I haven't heard of most of the actors who will be appearing, but I saw Andie MacDowell listed. "Join us at Crown Center in Kansas City, right outside of Hallmark’s headquarters, for the first-ever Hallmark Christmas Experience—a free, open-to-the-public, immersive experience with all the charm of a Hallmark movie town square. Elevate your experience with special ticketed events and activities—the exclusive way to get access to Hallmark stars and artists. Tickets are limited. The magic starts on November 29th and lasts through December 22nd. Gather your people—your family, fellow Hallmark fans, girlfriends, and loved ones— and get into the spirit of the season with us!" experiencehallmarkchristmas.com/
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