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Post by ando on Dec 8, 2022 11:44:47 GMT
Got any Shakespeare favorites on film? Seen any lately? Share! [Now I am the one having link troubles. Can you try posting those video links again?] The first video initially takes to an age restricted advisory (seems unnecessary, there’s next to nothing of salacious content in the poster’s overview) though it’s definitely worth a viewing. The second is the same short film on “Shakespeare on film” but a different source.
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Post by ando on Dec 12, 2022 18:55:04 GMT
Going through my bookmark archives I found this Germaine Greer discussion on Women and Shakespeare from 2015. Good one.
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Post by Swithin on Dec 19, 2022 1:24:21 GMT
Perhaps the most impressive of Shakespeare's women is Margaret of Anjou, who appears in Henry VI Parts I, II, III, and Richard III. She is the only character to appear alive in all four plays and evolves from a sweet French maid, to a tough, scheming woman, to a warrior queen, and finally, in Richard III, to a Cassandra-like prophetess who curses all those who have wronged her with a dramatic viciousness that works wonderfully on stage but is too often cut (e.g. by Olivier in his Richard III film).
I saw Penny Downie play the role over three evenings in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of The Plantagenets, a conflation of the four plays mentioned above. She was magnificent, embodying the great range of the character brilliantly.
One of Shakespare's most powerful scenes takes place in Henry VI Part 3, at the Battle of Tewkesbury, when Queen Margaret sees her young son, Prince Edward, stabbed to death by the Yorkists. She speaks to her dead child:
"O Ned, sweet Ned! speak to thy mother, boy! Canst thou not speak? O traitors! murderers! They that stabb'd Caesar shed no blood at all, Did not offend, nor were not worthy blame, If this foul deed were by to equal it: He was a man; this, in respect, a child: And men ne'er spend their fury on a child. What's worse than murderer, that I may name it? No, no, my heart will burst, and if I speak: And I will speak, that so my heart may burst. Butchers and villains! bloody cannibals! How sweet a plant have you untimely cropp'd! You have no children, butchers! if you had, The thought of them would have stirr'd up remorse: But if you ever chance to have a child, Look in his youth to have him so cut off As, deathmen, you have rid this sweet young prince!"
She returns, in Richard III, to curse all who've wronged her, and her curses prevail:
"What were you snarling all before I came, Ready to catch each other by the throat, And turn you all your hatred now on me? Did York's dread curse prevail so much with heaven? That Henry's death, my lovely Edward's death, Their kingdom's loss, my woful banishment, Could all but answer for that peevish brat? Can curses pierce the clouds and enter heaven? Why, then, give way, dull clouds, to my quick curses! If not by war, by surfeit die your king, As ours by murder, to make him a king! Edward thy son, which now is Prince of Wales, For Edward my son, which was Prince of Wales, Die in his youth by like untimely violence! Thyself a queen, for me that was a queen, Outlive thy glory, like my wretched self! Long mayst thou live to wail thy children's loss; And see another, as I see thee now, Deck'd in thy rights, as thou art stall'd in mine! Long die thy happy days before thy death; And, after many lengthen'd hours of grief, Die neither mother, wife, nor England's queen! Rivers and Dorset, you were standers by, And so wast thou, Lord Hastings, when my son Was stabb'd with bloody daggers: God, I pray him, That none of you may live your natural age, But by some unlook'd accident cut off!"
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Post by ando on Dec 23, 2022 18:04:45 GMT
Perhaps the most impressive of Shakespeare's women is Margaret of Anjou, who appears in Henry VI Parts I, II, III, and Richard III. She is the only character to appear alive in all four plays and evolves from a sweet French maid, to a tough, scheming woman, to a warrior queen, and finally, in Richard III, to a Cassandra-like prophetess who curses all those who have wronged her with a dramatic viciousness that works wonderfully on stage but is too often cut (e.g. by Olivier in his Richard III film). Yes, and until I reread the play with a study group last summer I hadn't realized how large the roles of all the greiving women are, collectively. They provide an effective counter to Richard's rather overbearing presence. Margaret is the one female figure who is never seduced by Richard's entreaties. And, yes, she is generally overlooked in the pantheon of Shakespeare's great female roles - probably because her character makes brief appearances in several plays. Perhaps a female actor/director will do with her character what Orson Welles did with Falstaff in Chimes at Midnight, collating bits from the Henry IV & V plays to form a fascinating film portrait.
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Post by Swithin on Dec 26, 2022 3:38:00 GMT
This may be more properly considered as TV, not sure. The Hollow Crown Series. The are availale on Netflix as full feature films, but they ae also expressed in terms of episodes. Perhaps initially TV and later cobbled together as full-length features. Not sure, as I say.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RMdMLrW_k4&t=1sThanks. Vimeo has a free version of Richard II, the first in the Hollow Crown series. I love Derek Jacobi's performance as Richard from the late 70s/early 80s BBC tv series. Ben Whishaw's uber effette Richard takes some getting used to... Good ensemble all around, though. I saw Jacobi's Richard II at the Phoenix Theatre, London, in 1988. Thought he was very good, but at 50 a bit elderly for the role. I'd like to have seen him play the role earlier and will look for the Hollow Crown version (1978). Jacobi's performance as Alan Turing in Breaking the Code a few years earlier is one of the monumental performances. I think the first times I saw him on stage was the early 1980s, as Cyrano and Benedick, with the RSC. Ben Whishaw was excellent as a studious Brutus in Julius Caesar, directed by Nick Hytner at the Bridge Theatre. I think it was filmed.
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Post by ando on Dec 26, 2022 4:25:34 GMT
Now that's a role he's fitted for! Gotta look out for the film. Perhaps he'll bring it to America one day. Here's a link to his his turn at Richard:vimeo.com/channels/551513/58737725
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Post by Swithin on Dec 26, 2022 4:53:39 GMT
Now that's a role he's fitted for! Gotta look out for the film. Perhaps he'll bring it to America one day. Here's a link to his his turn at Richard:vimeo.com/channels/551513/58737725 Thanks! Look forward to watching that. Two other Richard II's that I've seen include Jeremy Irons and Fiona Shaw, both excellent. I think the Shaw version has been filmed.
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Post by Newbie on Jan 7, 2023 2:41:05 GMT
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Post by Dick the butcher on Jan 7, 2023 3:35:02 GMT
Looks opportunistic to me. I haven't been able to find an online copy of the filing, but the few reports I've read about it indicate their complaint is about being deceived, then intimidated. The California statute allows relief for sexual abuse and specifies the types of offenses covered, but I'm not sure this situation, even in 2023, would fit.
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Post by Newbie on Jan 7, 2023 14:01:34 GMT
Looks opportunistic to me. I haven't been able to find an online copy of the filing, but the few reports I've read about it indicate their complaint is about being deceived, then intimidated. The California statute allows relief for sexual abuse and specifies the types of offenses covered, but I'm not sure this situation, even in 2023, would fit. That was my take, too. $500 million? For his bare bottom and a quick glimpse of her chest. People have referred to it as a "sex scene" making it sound much more salacious than it was. Apparently, Hussey has given interviews in the last 50 years that contradict what she is claiming now. Different age/time than 1968. English classes have been showing Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet for decades. I wonder if this will affect the availability of the film.
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Post by Dick the butcher on Jan 7, 2023 15:00:43 GMT
Looks opportunistic to me. I haven't been able to find an online copy of the filing, but the few reports I've read about it indicate their complaint is about being deceived, then intimidated. The California statute allows relief for sexual abuse and specifies the types of offenses covered, but I'm not sure this situation, even in 2023, would fit. That was my take, too. $500 million? For his bare bottom and a quick glimpse of her chest. People have referred to it as a "sex scene" making it sound much more salacious than it was. Apparently, Hussey has given interviews in the last 50 years that contradict what she is claiming now. Different age/time than 1968. English classes have been showing Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet for decades. I wonder if this will affect the availability of the film. My 9th grade English class went to see it in a theater as a field trip.
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Post by ando on Jan 7, 2023 19:08:50 GMT
Speaking of R&J here's a fine version of the play from '78 with John Gielgud as the chorus, Celia Johnson as Nurse and Alan Rickman as Tybalt. People have complained about a drab looking Juliet, the less than dashing Romeo and obvious studio sets - but not the spoken language. I've listened to this one more than watched it. But it's a perfectly fine period performance. Great costumes. iMDB page
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Post by ando on Jan 7, 2023 20:11:48 GMT
This ramshackle Italian production (1954, Renato Castellani) is a lot more fun than the '78 version though it features a younger, romantic looking Gielgud as Chorus (wish I'd seen his Hamlet) and several notable names, including a young Laurence Harvey ( Manchurian Candidate) as Romeo. Free on tubi.
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Post by ando on Mar 6, 2023 18:35:22 GMT
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Post by Hrothgar on Dec 6, 2023 7:11:16 GMT
Now that's a role he's fitted for! Gotta look out for the film. Perhaps he'll bring it to America one day. Here's a link to his his turn at Richard:vimeo.com/channels/551513/58737725 Thanks! Look forward to watching that. Two other Richard II's that I've seen include Jeremy Irons and Fiona Shaw, both excellent. I think the Shaw version has been filmed.Jeremy Irons' Henry IV in the Hollow Crown Series was very good. I have always been perhaps a bit unappreciative of Irons but he knocked it out of the park with this.
Btw, I have not been around for awhile, may one tell me what happened to Ando?
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