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Post by NoShear on Jul 28, 2024 17:30:41 GMT
I recently read that the popularity of the Eton crop was linked to cloche couture as the boyish cut made for nice display of the bell like hats... The following photo of Norma Shearer is dated about the same time - the fall of 1926 - that the Eton was first identified by name in print:
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Post by Fading Fast on Jul 28, 2024 17:40:44 GMT
I'd like to comment on this photo of Julie Christie that Christine posted. The head covering is a great example of a small bit of regionalism that can help to make costuming look authentic.There's no telling if the piece is actually hand knitted in the traditional fashion or if it was commercially manufactured (though I strongly suspect the latter), but the shawl, as it is called traditionally, is likely a piece of Orenburg lace (or meant to be at the very least.) Though you will see it as a rectangular scarf-shaped garment, the tradition is for the shawl to be square. In this way it can be used as a shawl, headwrap, baby swaddle, a multitude of functions. Certain lace patterns are traditional, usually those that look like flowers, trees, animal tracks, or other natural subjects, and it is also traditional to be comprised of a defined center, border(s) and edging. It is a garter stitch piece of lace, which means most of the work is done with the knit stitch rather than the purl stitch. (It is pretty much universally held by knitters that the knit stitch is not only quicker to perform but also easier to control for tension. But I digress.)I do not exaggerate when I say these shawls are gossamer. Traditionally, the extremely finely spun thread used was made solely of goat down (similar to cashmere or mohair). The soft, fine, long staple down hair comes from the Orenburg goat which can only be reared in Orenburg. The steppes of the Ural mountains provide the proper climate for the goats to create this down, and efforts to accomplish same elsewhere have met with failure. Today the down is typically blended with some silk to provide strength, but the goat down hairs are sufficiently strong on their own despite their fineness. Orenburg shawls are typically wedding gifts and generally referred to as "wedding shawls." Though they are quite large, often measuring five feet square, the shawl can pass through a wedding band. It is said that if the fiber used to knit the shawl creates a garment too bulky to perform this task, the marriage will be ill fated. There are two contemporary knitters who are considered THE authorities on Orenburg lace. First is Olga Alexandrovna Fedorova (1935-2008). Her designs are beautiful, and her work is technically flawless. Among knitters she is called the "legend of the steppes."Olga at her home
one of Olga's shawls (61" x 53") The other masterful Orenburg knitter is Galina Khmeleva. Galina learned directly from Olga, and since Olga's passing is now the foremost authority. Galina traveled outside Russia for the first time in 1990, and she now lives in Fort Collins, CO. I have been to Galina's lectures and even a small workshop. She has brought the Orenburg tradition into the twenty-first century with a joy that seems to know no bounds. Her spinning is peerless, and her shawls are incredible. I've held the shawls she knitted, and if my eyes hadn't been open I don't know they were in my hands, I might not have known. At the workshop, Galina encouraged all of us to pass a shawl through our wedding bands, which of course we did. Gossamer, indeed.Galina Khmeleva
Galina wearing one of her shawls This is such a fantastic post. I love all of it, but this is so cool:
"I do not exaggerate when I say these shawls are gossamer. Traditionally, the extremely finely spun thread used was made solely of goat down (similar to cashmere or mohair). The soft, fine, long staple down hair comes from the Orenburg goat which can only be reared in Orenburg. The steppes of the Ural mountains provide the proper climate for the goats to create this down, and efforts to accomplish same elsewhere have met with failure. Today the down is typically blended with some silk to provide strength, but the goat down hairs are sufficiently strong on their own despite their fineness.
Orenburg shawls are typically wedding gifts and generally referred to as "wedding shawls." Though they are quite large, often measuring five feet square, the shawl can pass through a wedding band. It is said that if the fiber used to knit the shawl creates a garment too bulky to perform this task, the marriage will be ill fated."
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Plus, this had to be such a great experience:
"I have been to Galina's lectures and even a small workshop. She has brought the Orenburg tradition into the twenty-first century with a joy that seems to know no bounds. Her spinning is peerless, and her shawls are incredible. I've held the shawls she knitted, and if my eyes hadn't been open I don't know they were in my hands, I might not have known. At the workshop, Galina encouraged all of us to pass a shawl through our wedding bands, which of course we did. Gossamer, indeed."
Thank you, BunnyWhit, for this wonderful post.
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Post by christine on Jul 28, 2024 17:54:27 GMT
I would also like to thank BunnyWhit for that post. That information is all new to me - all I know is that I thought Julie Christie looked stunning in that photo with that head cover. Loved learning that!
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Post by christine on Jul 29, 2024 3:43:18 GMT
My third favorite reveal is Robert Redford.
I know what you're thinking - but no - to me Redford is more than just a pretty face.
His father was an accountant, but Robert's favorite thing was not math or school. He left college and traveled through Europe discovering that he loved the outdoors and the arts. When he returned to the US he began acting on stage then on television in shows like PERRY MASON and THE ALFRED HITCHCOCK HOUR in the 60's. He made a few early films but his role in BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID 1969 helped make him a movie star.
Not just a movie star but an award winning director, producer and model for young talent. Robert has used his star power for promoting film making through his Sundance organization. With his resort area where the Sundance film festival is celebrated to the Sundance cable channel.
He is also a great champion of the environment and saving our planet for future generations.
So Robert Redford - my third selection - is not just another pretty face. Although - his face is nice to look at - and look at - and continue to look at!!!
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Post by NoShear on Jul 29, 2024 15:44:58 GMT
I'm kind of surprised that Suzy Parker wasn't your sophisto offering here, Fading Fast: She was as tall as your buildings and sophisticated as your taste in men's clothes.
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Post by Fading Fast on Jul 29, 2024 16:16:24 GMT
I'm kind of surprised that Suzy Parker wasn't your sophisto offering here, Fading Fast: She was as tall as your buildings and sophisticated as your taste in men's clothes. As my 5'11" girlfriend says (talking her book), height cures a multitude of sins.
That's one of the problem with lists, you never get everyone.
Parker was an impressive and statuesque woman, but other than a few movies, I can't say she hits my radar often.
So let's give one of the original model/actresses her due.
"Is that you, Fading Fast, you can't hide from me. I know you left me off your original list." - SP
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Post by Fading Fast on Jul 29, 2024 16:22:54 GMT
Have to ask, Ms. BunnyWhit, did you notice Ms. Thaxter's ridiculously adorable sweater in the earlier post. That row of buttons is insane.
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Post by NoShear on Jul 29, 2024 17:50:03 GMT
Unable to come up with five choices to suit me, I've settled on a Fab Four, Fading Fast. This list is time tripping rather than necessarily all contemporary... I would've liked to have had the following coloring book when I was a child: Problem, though, its release was seven years or so prior to when I got to see In search of the CASTAWAYS and projected my fondness for Hayley Mills through the following song my father was spinning at the 1970 time: I'm still smitten with the C, S & N tune, but Hayley Mills was swept away by the pyroclastic flow of time long ago. And so, too, was true with Linda Blair... A tween dream, Linda Blair was an odd pinup in her day: I had that big fan club poster of her in 1974 - the one with the exorcism imagery on one whole side, but that was before even being allowed to view her twin taboo outings!! Of that aforementioned poster, I nevertheless didn't have much pinup material on my bedroom walls coming of age, and I wonder if this was due to growing up in the genetic cauldron of beauty yielded by the movie industry, the San Fernando Valley, which precluded much of any need for paper dreams: Another example of a pretty Valley youth is my next entry here: Somewhere in between my third and final pick came my "Guinnevere", the proverbial love of my life, who looked a bit like Jennifer Aniston and a lot like:
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Post by BunnyWhit on Jul 29, 2024 22:05:34 GMT
Have to ask, Ms. BunnyWhit, did you notice Ms. Thaxter's ridiculously adorable sweater in the earlier post. That row of buttons is insane.
I sure did, FadingFast. It's a good thing that is a machine knit sweater, as hand knitting that many buttonholes so close together could land even the most seasoned knitter in the boobyhatch.
What I responded to even more though is the shoulder pads. Made me think perhaps Phyllis would have been a better candidate for:
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Post by christine on Jul 31, 2024 1:42:05 GMT
Joan Fontaine in a stunning hat from the movie REBECCA 1940
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Jul 31, 2024 18:48:19 GMT
Have to ask, Ms. BunnyWhit, did you notice Ms. Thaxter's ridiculously adorable sweater in the earlier post. That row of buttons is insane.
I'm a big fan of Thaxter. Anytime I see her in a film she is the best female actor, always giving a first-rate performance. I also find her attractive, but she was often cast as the gal a man lets down (cheats on her, lies etc...). E.g. Blood on the Moon where Robert Preston uses her to get to her father. This really continued when she went to do T.V. westerns like Wagon Train, and others. This is similar to how producers often cast Dorothy McGuire. Yea, producers needed to fill those type of roles and this being Hollywood didn't wish to cast an actress that was really homely.
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Post by christine on Aug 1, 2024 0:40:43 GMT
Number four on my admiration list is Sidney Poitier.
I was in my early teens when I fell for Sidney in the first film of his I saw - A PATCH OF BLUE 1965.
His charm, smile, charisma just got me. I then made it my goal to watch every movie I could find with him in it. From TO SIR, WITH LOVE 1967, GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER 1967 to A WARM DECEMBER 1973 - I had more and more adoration for him.
Academy Award for LILIES OF THE FIELD 1964
I've always been entranced with Sidney - and even just recently TCM showed the only television miniseries that Poitier ever did - SEPARATE BUT EQUAL 1991. His acting was absolutely amazing and the story riveting. I was spellbound all over again!!!
Sidney will always be, in my opinion, one of the very best!!!
From Christine with love!
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Post by NoShear on Aug 2, 2024 17:46:22 GMT
Maureen O'Sullivan looking civilized again following her romp through the jungle, Fading Fast:
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Post by Fading Fast on Aug 2, 2024 17:54:29 GMT
Maureen O'Sullivan looking civilized again following her romp through the jungle, Fading Fast: Agreed. I believe those are from "The Thin Man" and she never looked cuter. Plus, those are adorable hats.
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Post by NoShear on Aug 2, 2024 18:14:35 GMT
Maureen O'Sullivan looking civilized again following her romp through the jungle, Fading Fast: Agreed. I believe those are from "The Thin Man" and she never looked cuter. Plus, those are adorable hats. Yes, Fading Fast; it seemed moot to mention to its subject... Animal Magnetism: Soon tiring of high society, Maureen O'Sullivan was soon off again -
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