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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 24, 2023 5:31:31 GMT
014 Love Story - Interesting to note that Radar's love interest was the original Gloria from the first All in the Family pilot, when it was called Justice For All. Kelly Jean Peters / Gloria Justice / Lt. Louise Anderson This Unsold and Unaired pilot made in 1968 Justice For All stars: Carroll O'Conner Jean Stapleton Tim Macintire Kelly Jean Peters D'urville Martin, 1 of 2 unsold pilots
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Post by topbilled on Mar 24, 2023 15:49:12 GMT
M*A*S*H Redemption Song?Many people have come up to me on street corners, airports and said I became a doctor because of your playing Hawkeye and the whole show M*A*S*H but nobody ever said I've become an actor because of you. -- Alan Alda (CBC Ideas - War and Medicine: Hawkeye's Army)Life is strange. En route to my ice-palace at Varykino at the other day I stopped in for an Arby's bologna sandwich. (BingFan will appreciate the meats humour). As a Digital Disconnect, the analog radio scan game is in full effect. Scan for something good. Scan for something bad. Scan for something fun (much aaaah Bach is involved). I was poised to scan on to the next item when the M*A*S*H theme start playing out of my car speakers. What followed was a most intriguing, inspiring and strange mixed medical/media podcast: War and Medicine: Hawkeye's Armywww.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/mash-medicine-and-war-horton-1.6755124Beyond examining the importance of M*A*S*H, the podcast (if available outside of Canada?) is time well spent. I don't generally step into my doctor's inner realm or fully appreciate his experiences but I'm glad I did. Dr. Jillian Horton's LA Times Op-Ed is also touchingly insightful and worthy of your time. www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-16/covid-war-mash-doctor-alda-hawkeyeBoth items have really added to the breadth of lens I am applying to M*A*S*H reruns. At what point is there or is there not redemption for a 50 year old tv program? How many gay/sexist/alcoholic jokes can be endured if current lives are being saved? One hot, humid night in the summer of 2020, I sat at a dining room table in a rented cabin off the shores of Lake Winnipeg, and wrote a heartfelt pandemic cri de coeur about a fictional army doctor, one who taught me how we might make it through our COVID "war."
That doctor was Captain Benjamin Franklin (Hawkeye) Pierce, the main character of one of the most beloved television series of all time: M*A*S*H, which celebrated its 50th anniversary in the fall of 2022.
Many beautiful surprises ensued. After the piece was published by The Los Angeles Times, it went viral. In the ensuing weeks and months, I learned there were tens of thousands of people like me — healthcare workers who had been inspired to go into medicine because of Hawkeye's struggles in Korea, workers who, during the pandemic, found themselves on a very different kind of frontline. -- Dr. Jillian Horton
Such a great post. Thanks for contributing this.***I want to quote something you wrote:Both items have really added to the breadth of lens I am applying to M*A*S*H reruns. At what point is there or is there not redemption for a 50 year old tv program? How many gay/sexist/alcoholic jokes can be endured if current lives are being saved?***
The writers seemed to have a limited bag of tricks in the first season. Make fun of homosexuals, get a laugh. Make fun of women, get a laugh. Make a drink, get a laugh. They also think mental illness is funny. And then there is the rather distasteful ongoing story with Klinger dressing up like a woman. No, he's not trans. He's a straight man that can be used for gay jokes, sexist jokes and mental illness jokes.
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Post by Mayo on Mar 24, 2023 16:56:48 GMT
Such a great post. Thanks for contributing this.***I want to quote something you wrote:Both items have really added to the breadth of lens I am applying to M*A*S*H reruns. At what point is there or is there not redemption for a 50 year old tv program? How many gay/sexist/alcoholic jokes can be endured if current lives are being saved?***
The writers seemed to have a limited bag of tricks in the first season. Make fun of homosexuals, get a laugh. Make fun of women, get a laugh. Make a drink, get a laugh. They also think mental illness is funny. And then there is the rather distasteful ongoing story with Klinger dressing up like a woman. No, he's not trans. He's a straight man that can be used for gay jokes, sexist jokes and mental illness jokes. Klinger wore dresses in hopes of getting a Section 8 to get out of the army, reflecting the army's stance on homosexuality at the time. If you think the tv show was sexist, the movie was much worse. The scene where Hawkeye and Trapper lift the shower tent wall exposing a wet, soapy naked Hot Lips to a jeering crowd comes to mind. I always hated that scene and wondered how Sally Kellerman felt filming it. The Klinger bit old. Fast.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 25, 2023 9:01:40 GMT
017 Sometimes You Hear the Bullet
The one where Hawkeye loses a friend
This is an effective episode that mixes dark themes with the usual light doses of humor. Of course, the writers want Hawkeye to be a doctor who helps ensure that some men cannot return to battle, an idea that was also present in the previous episode.
It all starts with Frank pulling out his back during a tryst with Margaret. While recovering in post-op, he puts in for a Purple Heart. Meanwhile, a soldier named Tommy Gillis (James T. Callahan) comes into the ward and it is revealed he’s an old pal of Hawkeye’s. Though Hawkeye was originally said to be from Vermont, dialogue in this episode reveals that he’s from southern Maine and that is where he went to school with Tommy.
Tommy is writing a book about experiences in battle, not as a war correspondent but as someone who is fighting on the front lines alongside the others. There is some gay humor with Tommy kissing Henry on the lips, and with him later wanting a kiss from Hawkeye after he returns to the camp as a wounded man.
Meanwhile an underage Marine (Ron Howard, billed as Ronny Howard) has been brought into surgery for an emergency appendectomy. The kid says he’s 18, which was Howard’s real-life age at the time of filming. But he’s really 15 and lied about how old he was in order to enlist and impress a girl back home.
Hawkeye suspects the Marine’s actual age and eventually turns him in, so that he will be sent back home and spared dying in battle. Of course, for all Hawkeye knows, the kid might not ever be wounded or die in action. As if that were not enough, Hawkeye steals Frank’s Purple Heart and gives it to the Marine.
While this subplot is playing out, Hawkeye’s buddy Tommy returns having been shot in a skirmish with the North Koreans. Tommy doesn’t survive surgery, and Hawkeye must deal with the reality of his friend’s lifeless body on the operating table. Alan Alda gives a thoughtful performance here, and McLean Stevenson provides good support in the more dramatic moments. The anti-war message of the script is heavy handed but nonetheless effective at manipulating the viewer’s emotions.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 26, 2023 2:21:05 GMT
017 Sometimes You Hear the Bullet January 28, 1973
I am enjoying the fact that music is nicely interwoven throughout the shows. This episode opens with a great comedic bit concerning I'm in the Mood For Love and Pennsylvania Six-Five-Thousand while Margaret sets up her romantic candlelit dinner wearing a gorgeous Kimono.
Some of the incidental music is pretty standard sitcom fare but much is fun and original. Someone seems to have purchased a new synthesizer toy that I can hear in a number of episodes thus far. It is quite interesting.
A nice little mention of our Dodsworth author's earlier work: Arrowsmith (1925), a novel about the challenges faced by an idealistic doctor. It was awarded the Pulitzer Prize, which Lewis declined, till upset that Main Street had not won the prize.
Phenomenal acting from the surgical team as Callahan dies on the operating table. Alan Alda and McLean Stevenson play it low and slow - impeccable. Beads of sweat and masked faces with only their eyes showing - very moving. Alda the actor not being able to cry and using fake tears with two painfully symmetrically neat lines running down his face reminded me of Requiem with Ed Wynn - turn him around backward. It worked because clearly these are the scenes that Dr. Jillian Horton and tens of thousands of others remember and aspire to replicate.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 26, 2023 20:26:09 GMT
017 Sometimes You Hear the BulletJanuary 28, 1973 I am enjoying the fact that music is nicely interwoven throughout the shows. This episode opens with a great comedic bit concerning I'm in the Mood For Love and Pennsylvania Six-Five-Thousand while Margaret sets up her romantic candlelit dinner wearing a gorgeous Kimono .
Some of the incidental music is pretty standard sitcom fare but much is fun and original. Someone seems to have purchased a new synthesizer toy that I can hear in a number of episodes thus far. It is quite interesting. A nice little mention of our Dodsworth author's earlier work: Arrowsmith (1925), a novel about the challenges faced by an idealistic doctor. It was awarded the Pulitzer Prize, which Lewis declined, till upset that Main Street had not won the prize. Phenomenal acting from the surgical team as Callahan dies on the operating table. Alan Alda and McLean Stevenson play it low and slow - impeccable. Beads of sweat and masked faces with only their eyes showing - very moving. Alda the actor not being able to cry and using fake tears with two painfully symmetrically neat lines running down his face reminded me of Requiem with Ed Wynn - turn him around backward. It worked because clearly these are the scenes that Dr. Jillian Horton and tens of thousands of others remember and aspire to replicate. I appreciate your comments about the show's music, since I have been neglecting that part of it.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 27, 2023 15:27:19 GMT
018 Dear Dad…Again
The one where Hawkeye writes to his father…again
A half dozen episodes back Hawkeye wrote to his dad at Christmastime. It is interesting the writers are revisiting this concept again so quickly. Perhaps there were leftover bits from the Christmas episode, and the ideas were used to make this follow-up ‘sequel.’ My only quibble: they might have let one of the other main characters besides Hawkeye do the writing this time— like maybe Trapper, to provide a different perspective.
At any rate, these types of episodes, like the mail call ones, are fun to watch because everyone is guaranteed nominal screen time, including the recurring characters. As a result, the members of the camp seem more connected by a central theme.
In this offering Hawkeye’s note home informs his father that the men and women of the 4077th are often exhausted after performing hours of ‘meatball surgery.’ Some of them crack under the pressure, and this is where we see Klinger again in a white mail-order bridal gown, still trying to get thrown out of the army. It is said that Klinger is an orderly.
Later Hawkeye has a bet with Trapper that they are all so desensitized to what goes on around them that he could walk into the mess hall naked and nobody would notice. Interestingly, when he does this, a new guy points out Hawkeye’s lack of clothing, causing Trapper to collect the $50 wager.
Meanwhile we learn that Radar is taking a correspondence course to earn a high school diploma. Henry must ask the questions on the final exam, before signing off that Radar’s passed. But Radar has memorized the answers in the wrong order. McLean Stevenson and Gary Burghoff make a great double-act, enlivening any little comedy sketch handed to them.
While all of this is going on, Frank and Margaret have had a quarrel because Margaret feels as if Frank only likes her for her body, not her brains. On the outs with Margaret, Frank drowns his sorrows by guzzling gin with Hawkeye and Trapper which helps him loosen up.
Unlike the previous ‘Dear Dad’ episode, this one features an additional subplot where a man named Casey (Alex Henteloff) is seen in the operating room and interacting with other personnel. He has quickly proven himself a valuable member of the M*A*S*H team, and everyone admires him. However, there is a catch— as he confesses to Father Mulcahy, he is in fact not a real physician, but an impostor.
Similar to the recently aired Captain Tuttle episode, we have another important contributor to the war effort, with phony credentials. If the show had done storylines that spanned multiple episodes, this might have been a good full-season arc, where we could spend almost a whole year with a guy that like the other characters, we become attached to. Then the rug is pulled out from under us, and we realize the irony that he’s not exactly who he said he was…but yet, he’s saved many lives. Yes, that would be something to write home about.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 28, 2023 1:07:04 GMT
One more note about 017 Sometimes You Hear the Bullet
This apparently was one episode that caused concern for TV executives. Burt Metcalfe, who was a writer, director, and executive producer, on the show recounted the response to this episode of “M*A*S*H.”
“At the end of that season, this jerky CBS executive comes into our offices and says, ‘Let me tell you guys how you ruined ‘M*A*S*H,’ and cites that episode,” Metcalfe recalled. “It’s just so far from the truth.”
This was just one of the many battles over the fight to add more thoughtful content to the sitcom. The executives at CBS just didn’t understand what the show’s writers, producers, and cast were trying to do with M*A*S*H.
On a personal level I really appreciate this episode for finally letting me see that Colonel Blake can be a great Commanding Officer.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 28, 2023 1:49:12 GMT
Threat of Cancellation - Season 1
Most material you read about the first season seems to say the show struggled a bit, bad timeslot, Babe Paley lobbied her husband to keep it, they made it through to that Season 2 wrecking crew timeslot (All in the Family, MASH, MTM, Bob Newhart, Carol Burnett Show) and it was all uphill from there on out. A 1980 item in the Washington Post mentions it was under threat of cancellation quite early in the run:www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/04/27/mash/b6be174c-b853-4271-a1b2-e411db7ad1e4/"We were just about finished after only a few weeks," says a Fox official. "The cancellation order had already gone out from CBS. So we got our stars working the phones giving interviews to newspapers in key markets. It worked."
"One reason Fox stayed with it even though it wasn't getting terrific ratings was that it was appealing to young people with buying power, the group advertisers wanted," says Bert Metcalfe, "MASH's" original co-producer and now its executive producer.
"MASH" finished the 1972-1973 season 46th out of 75 prime-time network programs. But at the same time, CBS officials saw something promising in "MASH."
"We had to be smart," says former CBS President Bob Wood. "We needed something for the 'in' group. This was the route we had to go."The Complete Book of MASH has this detail which helps shed light on what is going on date & ratings-wise: Originally, thirteen half-hour episodes were created, then nine more. At the end of the year, the CBS network asked for an additional two shows, and everyone breathed a sigh of relief - the extra order made them believe they would be "picked up" the following year.Thirteen episodes takes us to December 24, 1972. By this point obviously a combination of the calls, lobbying and some great writing have the show on much firmer footing and the award nominations begin: Nominated for 2 Golden Globe Awards - 30th Annual Golden Globes (January 28, 1973) Nominated for 7 Primetime Emmy Awards - 25th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards (May 20, 1973) The Complete Book of MASH also mentions how cheap it was for Fox to get this show to air since they owned the rights. CBS even gave the show the very tiny Studio 9, sans private bathroom facilities, as they were sure the certain smash hit Anna and the King would need the larger studio. It is very interesting to get a peak into the financial motivations behind pushing this show onward & upward.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 28, 2023 3:09:08 GMT
018 Dear Dad…Again
The one where Hawkeye writes to his father…again
If the show had done storylines that spanned multiple episodes, this might have been a good full-season arc, where we could spend almost a whole year with a guy that like the other characters, we become attached to. It is so odd that the writing mantra back then for so many tv programs seems to have been to write for your casual, non-fan viewer - the ones that won't notice the repeated plots, repeated jokes, characters that don't develop, short straight story lines that must be able to stand alone for what must be the long term goal of $yndication. 018 Dear Dad…Again February 4, 1973 Director: Jackie CooperThis episode has the fabulous big musical no-talent night talent show ending. While studying acting at university, William Christopher became a member of the glee club, singing and playing piano. He treats us to a brief ragtime roll to start things off. Hawkeye Pierce and His Swinging Surgeons are up next with brilliant conducting by Maestro Blake the likes of which you've never seen. Hawkeye's dad has sent him an old tuxedo so he looks quite dapper on his upright washtub bass. Trapper on lute is priceless. Gary Burghoff we know was a very talented drummer and musician, playing folk, jazz and was in a band with Wonder Woman. Loretta's rendition of Blue Heaven is charming and hilarious. It is pretty difficult to sing this poorly when you are a pretty decent chanteuse that has been on Perry Como. Frank even sings I've got a gal in Kalamazoo earlier in the episode. I had forgotten how integral music was to the show. If you can endure the laugh track, this is a little one minute wonder I can't help but think these 'letter home' episodes were part of selling the show, anchoring it with a bit of narration to help explain people, places and things to viewers. Gelbart & co's writing style in these early days was more about stringing together a number of jokes and might have left audiences adrift.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 28, 2023 15:18:45 GMT
Threat of Cancellation - Season 1
Most material you read about the first season seems to say the show struggled a bit, bad timeslot, Babe Paley lobbied her husband to keep it, they made it through to that Season 2 wrecking crew timeslot (All in the Family, MASH, MTM, Bob Newhart, Carol Burnett Show) and it was all uphill from there on out. A 1980 item in the Washington Post mentions it was under threat of cancellation quite early in the run:www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/04/27/mash/b6be174c-b853-4271-a1b2-e411db7ad1e4/"We were just about finished after only a few weeks," says a Fox official. "The cancellation order had already gone out from CBS. So we got our stars working the phones giving interviews to newspapers in key markets. It worked."
"One reason Fox stayed with it even though it wasn't getting terrific ratings was that it was appealing to young people with buying power, the group advertisers wanted," says Bert Metcalfe, "MASH's" original co-producer and now its executive producer.
"MASH" finished the 1972-1973 season 46th out of 75 prime-time network programs. But at the same time, CBS officials saw something promising in "MASH."
"We had to be smart," says former CBS President Bob Wood. "We needed something for the 'in' group. This was the route we had to go."The Complete Book of MASH has this detail which helps shed light on what is going on date & ratings-wise: Originally, thirteen half-hour episodes were created, then nine more. At the end of the year, the CBS network asked for an additional two shows, and everyone breathed a sigh of relief - the extra order made them believe they would be "picked up" the following year.Thirteen episodes takes us to December 24, 1972. By this point obviously a combination of the calls, lobbying and some great writing have the show on much firmer footing and the award nominations begin: Nominated for 2 Golden Globe Awards - 30th Annual Golden Globes (January 28, 1973) Nominated for 7 Primetime Emmy Awards - 25th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards (May 20, 1973) The Complete Book of MASH also mentions how cheap it was for Fox to get this show to air since they owned the rights. CBS even gave the show the very tiny Studio 9, sans private bathroom facilities, as they were sure the certain smash hit Anna and the King would need the larger studio. It is very interesting to get a peak into the financial motivations behind pushing this show onward & upward. Thanks for going so "deep" in your commentary. One thing that was the norm in the 70s and 80s is that most full seasons were 22 episodes. But if they did 13 episodes, more than half a season, that was considered long enough to satisfy agreements with the unions/guilds as a season.
When ABC canceled Lucille Ball's low-rated Life with Lucy after only airing six episodes, they still had to produce at least 13 episodes. Those remaining episodes were never aired on ABC. Ball and her husband, producer Gary Morton earned an additional million dollars for those unaired episodes, per their contract.
But the network is not obligated to extend the season from 13 to 22, and that is why some shows "die" mid-season. A network only will grant the extension if the show is at least scoring moderately well with audiences, holding steady with potential to grow...which is what happened to M*A*S*H in its first season. Ironically, the follow-up series AfterM*A*S*H died in the middle of its second season. That's another story!
Sometimes there is a production break between the 13th episode and filming of the remaining episodes. I think this is evident in the case of M*A*S*H, because there is a slight retooling of the cast. Probably to get the extension, they had to eliminate Jones and Dish, if the network felt those characters weren't working. And then after season 1, we no longer see the Ugly John character...his dismissal would have occurred during the break between season 1 and season 2.
Getting the go-ahead to film two extra episodes at the end of season 1 is significant, because it means the network saw the show's long-range viability and was likely to renew it for a second season, which is exactly what happened.
During the 1980s, CBS has several hugely popular primetime soaps like Dallas, Knots Landing and Falcon Crest. Those shows often exceeded 22 episodes per season in their heyday...since they were guaranteed to draw audiences and ad revenues. Also, the primetime soaps usually didn't have reruns, so there had to be something to schedule each week, if there wasn't a special presentation to pre-empt it.
Dallas' 9th season had 31 episodes. Knots Landing's 6th, 7th & 8th seasons all had 30 episodes. Falcon Crest's 4th season had 30 episodes. Etc.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 28, 2023 16:26:33 GMT
I can only imagine what actors from this era think of the number of episodes that comprise a season today. Loretta Swit took to wearing support hose to get through the 14 hour days.
From its inception MASH was meant to be different. It was the only filmed television show with a rehearsal day. Traditional sitcoms were done on a soundstage; the cast and crew had four days to prepare and then shoot the episode on videotape in one long day, often in front of an audience. Reynolds wanted the show to 'look classy' so he insisted on film rather than tape and the use of outdoor as well as indoor locations.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 29, 2023 14:08:36 GMT
I can only imagine what actors from this era think of the number of episodes that comprise a season today. Loretta Swit took to wearing support hose to get through the 14 hour days. From its inception MASH was meant to be different. It was the only filmed television show with a rehearsal day. Traditional sitcoms were done on a soundstage; the cast and crew had four days to prepare and then shoot the episode on videotape in one long day, often in front of an audience. Reynolds wanted the show to 'look classy' so he insisted on film rather than tape and the use of outdoor as well as indoor locations. Other sitcoms have been made on film instead of videotape. For example, Designing Women was done on film. When I worked on the show during the sixth season, I remember that those were very long production days. Episodes were usually filmed on Friday evening. They started filming around 6 p.m. and often didn't finish until 1 a.m. The videotaped sitcoms started at 6 but were usually done by 8 or 9 at the latest.
The key difference I found is that because video tape was cheaper, they usually recorded a dress rehearsal earlier in the week, like the day before or earlier the same day. So they had a back-up copy of shots to edit from in case something was off in footage filmed before the live audience. But with film, because it was more expensive, the scenes were only filmed that one time in front of the audience. And if something wasn't right, they would have to go back and do quick "pick ups" or audio redubs. They could not move on to the next scene until they were sure they had the best possible 'take.'
One episode of Designing Women that season was experimental. The one where the characters commented on the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill scandal. So there were actual news clips inserted into the episode. And those clips were videotape, not film...but that difference in visual style was okay, because the characters were supposed to be watching the news unfold on their TV screen.
In the case of M*A*S*H they were probably forced to use film, because it had only been two years since the motion picture...and if it was done with standard videotape, the audience would compare it unfavorably to the movie version which they had recently seen.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 29, 2023 14:12:20 GMT
019 The Longjohn Flap
The one where everyone wants to get into Hawkeye’s underwear
This was the first of 19 scripts written or cowritten by series star Alan Alda. He was the first member of the cast to take on extra duties behind the camera. In this story, inspired by ‘La Ronde,’ an item of significant value is passed around the camp from one person to the next. The item in this case is a pair of Hawkeye’s long underwear, much coveted during a cold spell that is bearing down on everyone.
While we hear the icy winds of a Korean winter on the soundtrack and see a few leaves blowing around, there is no snow. Also, it seems unbelievable that if they are all shivering so much and trying to keep their hands warm, that they would be going without gloves? Especially when walking outdoors in the wintertime, surely they’d all wear gloves. And if they didn’t have gloves, then those would be requested in the letter that Henry has Radar write to get more clothing sent to the 4077th.
Despite the implausibilities of Alda’s script, the basic scenario is fun. We see how everyone wants to get their hands on Hawkeye’s long johns, which were recently sent to him by his father. Unfortunately for Hawkeye, he isn’t able to hold on to the undergarments. He gives them to Trapper who is not feeling well, but then Trapper loses them in a poker game to Radar.
From here the long johns are traded by Radar to the cook for a sumptuous meal. The cook hands them over to Frank as a bribe, when Frank threatens to have the cook written up for unsanitary kitchen conditions. Then Frank gives Hawkeye’s underwear to Margaret as a gift, after she guilt trips him. Incidentally, I found it a bit unrealistic that the long johns would fit Frank so perfectly, since he and Hawkeye are not the same build. Or that they’d fit Henry so well, since he’s taller, when he wears them later.
In the next part Klinger steals the long johns from Margaret before she’s had a chance to wear them. But Klinger develops a conscience about his theft and gives them to Father Mulcahy who passes them on to Henry. You get the idea, the double-weave long johns are making the rounds!
In a way, a plot like this sort of writes itself…the important item keeps getting passed on to the next person until eventually it comes full circle back to first person (Hawkeye), which of course is what happens. There are no surprises here, but it’s amusing to see how everyone’s life is temporarily turned upside down by a pair of underwear.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 29, 2023 19:10:03 GMT
> I remember that those were very long production days.
It is curious that these working conditions are accepted in television and film as just a fact of life. It doesn't seem like anyone can have much of a personal life with this kind of schedule.
I was very interested in one of the TCM intro/outro items you posted a while back - can't remember exactly what it was - I think maybe Claudette Colbert in regards to a proposed project after It Happened One Night. At any rate the actress only made two requests for the new project - a shooting angle of her face and to be finished work by 5pm. Her requests were denied and she passed on the project.
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