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Post by kims on Nov 6, 2023 15:53:04 GMT
KING'S ROW : Ann Sheridan and Ronald Reagan leave the train station-Ann left of a post, Ronald starts to go right of the post, stops, says "bread and butter" then moves left of the post. Last week in a movie, a couple started to walk on either side of a post, one stops and says "oh, no" and moves to pass the post same side as the friend. I've heard "bread and butter" in another movie (memory fails).
Today I hear the phrase used to indicate the source of someone's income.
There's a superstition that it is bad luck for someone or something to come between a couple. According to Wikipedia, both people are supposed to say "bread and butter" to avert the bad luck. In films, I've only seen one person say "bread and butter." Origin of the ritual is obscure.
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Post by Fading Fast on Nov 6, 2023 16:31:19 GMT
KING'S ROW : Ann Sheridan and Ronald Reagan leave the train station-Ann left of a post, Ronald starts to go right of the post, stops, says "bread and butter" then moves left of the post. Last week in a movie, a couple started to walk on either side of a post, one stops and says "oh, no" and moves to pass the post same side as the friend. I've heard "bread and butter" in another movie (memory fails). Today I hear the phrase used to indicate the source of someone's income. There's a superstition that it is bad luck for someone or something to come between a couple. According to Wikipedia, both people are supposed to say "bread and butter" to avert the bad luck. In films, I've only seen one person say "bread and butter." Origin of the ritual is obscure. |
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Post by NoShear on Nov 6, 2023 17:00:56 GMT
KING'S ROW : Ann Sheridan and Ronald Reagan leave the train station-Ann left of a post, Ronald starts to go right of the post, stops, says "bread and butter" then moves left of the post. Last week in a movie, a couple started to walk on either side of a post, one stops and says "oh, no" and moves to pass the post same side as the friend. I've heard "bread and butter" in another movie (memory fails). Today I hear the phrase used to indicate the source of someone's income. There's a superstition that it is bad luck for someone or something to come between a couple. According to Wikipedia, both people are supposed to say "bread and butter" to avert the bad luck. In films, I've only seen one person say "bread and butter." Origin of the ritual is obscure. Reminded me of a scene in "The Incredible World Of Horace Ford", one of the hour episodes of The TWILIGHT ZONE, which features a "bread and butter" moment if I correctly recall, kims.  |
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Post by topbilled on Dec 17, 2023 16:00:33 GMT
I watched the Columbia precode LADIES OF LEISURE (1930) yesterday. Marie Prevost's character is a gold digger, and she describes a rich man she just met by saying: "this guy's got a lot of kale."
I am guessing that at some point kale gave way to cabbage as an idiom for money. Unless Prevost's dialogue was just meant to be funny and people didn't really say that!
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Post by BunnyWhit on Dec 17, 2023 20:24:26 GMT
I watched the Columbia precode LADIES OF LEISURE (1930) yesterday. Marie Prevost's character is a gold digger, and she describes a rich man she just met by saying: "this guy's got a lot of kale."
I am guessing that at some point kale gave way to cabbage as an idiom for money. Unless Prevost's dialogue was just meant to be funny and people didn't really say that! |
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Post by topbilled on Dec 17, 2023 21:44:30 GMT
I watched the Columbia precode LADIES OF LEISURE (1930) yesterday. Marie Prevost's character is a gold digger, and she describes a rich man she just met by saying: "this guy's got a lot of kale."
I am guessing that at some point kale gave way to cabbage as an idiom for money. Unless Prevost's dialogue was just meant to be funny and people didn't really say that! |
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Post by kims on Jan 1, 2024 17:39:45 GMT
Floozy. Seriously?! part of one line blurb describing the plot of the 1966 STAGECOACH to describe Ann-Margaret's character. Did TV Guide originally create these one line descriptions? And shouldn't someone update them? Does anyone under 30 know what a floozy was?
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Post by intrepid37 on Jan 2, 2024 3:21:03 GMT
Floozy. Seriously?! part of one line blurb describing the plot of the 1966 STAGECOACH to describe Ann-Margaret's character. Did TV Guide originally create these one line descriptions? And shouldn't someone update them? Does anyone under 30 know what a floozy was? Does anyone under 30 know anything at all? Floozy was a term used to describe a female who was cheap-talking, flirtatious, and, assumingly, promiscuous. These days similar-type females are referred to as 304's. I wonder if, 70 years from now, many people will know what a 304 is. |
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Post by lonesomepolecat on Jan 2, 2024 9:02:04 GMT
Floozy. Seriously?! part of one line blurb describing the plot of the 1966 STAGECOACH to describe Ann-Margaret's character. Did TV Guide originally create these one line descriptions? And shouldn't someone update them? Does anyone under 30 know what a floozy was? Does anyone under 30 know anything at all? Floozy was a term used to describe a female who was cheap-talking, flirtatious, and, assumingly, promiscuous. These days similar-type females are referred to as 304's. I wonder if, 70 years from now, many people will know what a 304 is. And is anyone under 30 going to watch a movie from 1966?  Never heard “304” — what’s the origin of that one? |
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Post by intrepid37 on Jan 2, 2024 10:04:24 GMT
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Post by Andrea Doria on Jan 2, 2024 11:34:08 GMT
304 is new to me.
The names! Floozy, hussy, tramp. In "Remember the Night" Barbara Stanwyck complains that some men thought she was a "sister." A slightly nicer way to call someone a floozy was to say she was fast, easy or common. Joan Rivers got us all used to hearing, "slut," on TV. I read a biography of one actress that said she was known to have "round heels."
One term I notice they use a lot in old movies, for any woman who likes sex at all, is "nymphomaniac." It was a sickness, I tell you!
These terms overlap with the names for prostitutes; street walker, call girl, escort, now sex worker. Why?
I heard someone on NPR talking about the history of chewing gum the other day, saying that in it's early days of popularity hookers (there's another one) always chewed gum as a signal of their profession. Here I always thought they smoked cigarettes while leaning on a lamp post!
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Post by intrepid37 on Jan 2, 2024 21:51:41 GMT
Here I always thought they smoked cigarettes while leaning on a lamp post! In France. |
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Post by kims on Feb 20, 2024 0:34:55 GMT
Reading a Perry Mason book, the trunk of the car is referred to as the luggage compartment-thank heavens that got shortened to "trunk. The characters about one car keep referring to the trunk as a turtleback-not a word I've ever heard in reference to a car.
WHAT AN EDUCATION!! Mostly definitions on line refer to some sexual situations. Pretty sure that's not what is meant in Perry Mason book.
Using the standard definition in Merriam-Webster that the turtleback of a boat is the convex shaped bow or stern of a boat so water flows off the boat, I decided the trunk lid must be convex. I'm not sure if all trunk lids were called turtlebacks or only convex shaped ones.
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Post by Fading Fast on Mar 7, 2024 18:27:37 GMT
"On the Beam" to mean doing something correctly or you have the right idea. It comes from WWII when bombers used to be guided to targets by radio beams. You'll hear it a lot in movies in the second half of the '40s as returning pilots made it quite popular for a time. It's used a bunch in the 1947 movie "The Hucksters."
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Post by Fading Fast on Apr 6, 2024 11:14:04 GMT
The other day I was watching "Kitty Foyle" (because my real life is purposeless and empty) and James Craig's character says to Ginger Roger's character (the titular Kitty), "we'll do it up brown" as he's describing taking her out for a big night on the town - dinner, dancing and a show all at high-end places.
I don't remember having heard that one before, so it was off to Google which said:
DO IT UP BROWN - "Do something well; do it to one's satisfaction. In England the phrase has had the meaning of deceive or take in. Either way, it carries the implication of doing something thoroughly and probably comes from the roasting of meat, yielding a brown color that is the result of thorough cooking.
The fun now will be to see how long it takes until I hear it again. Usually, once you learn a new word or expression, you start to notice it frequently. With these idioms from old movies, that usually only happens when you are watching other old movies, which I do to an embarrassing degree. So, we'll see how long it takes.
Was anyone familiar with this expression?
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