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Post by galacticgirrrl on Jan 20, 2023 3:16:54 GMT
An interesting case seems to have concluded.... Painter Peter Doig Wins $2.5 Million in Sanctions Against a Gallery That Tried to Force Him to Take Credit for Another Artist’s Worknews.artnet.com/art-world/painter-peter-doig-wins-2-5-million-in-sanctions-against-a-gallery-that-tried-to-force-him-to-take-credit-for-another-artists-work-2243646Also... In a CBC interview Peter talks about how his work is greatly influenced by music and film. He can't paint without music playing in his studio. The link to the article is below but I'm not sure the podcast will play outside of Canada. In 2003, Doig started a weekly film club called StudioFilmClub in his studio together with Trinidadian artist Che Lovelace. Doig not only selects and screens the films; he also paints the poster advertising the week's film. Doig was fascinated with a local Trinidadian man who walked through the streets of Port of Spain with his parasol. He worked him into this painting inspired by Yasujirō Ozu's film Tokyo Story, which he screened at his StudioFilmClub. His 1997 painting Canoe-Lake was inspired by the 1980 film Friday the 13th. The discussion of Artist's Resale Rights and the murky finances of the art market is exasperating. Peter Doig is one of the most respected figurative painters of our time — and it's his depictions of Canada that have become the most famous and financially successful. Just last November, Doig sold one of his pieces, titled Swamped, for $39 million US, which placed him among the world’s top-selling living artists. He spoke with Tom Power about how growing up in Canada influences his work. Plus, how he was wrongly accused of painting a piece of art that made international headlines. www.cbc.ca/radio/q/peter-doig-on-q-a-visual-companion-guide-1.6308085
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Feb 28, 2023 4:02:42 GMT
This is an interesting case that hits at the heart of one of our holy grails: New York-based production company suing Anne of Green Gables licensing bodyLawsuit claims Anne is 'as much in the public domain as are Shakespeare’s plays'
CBC News · Feb 22, 2023 www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-anne-green-gables-lawsuit-public-domain-1.6756405Anne With An E, LLC, is a New York-based production company behind Anne of Green Gables: A New Musical. The play with a folk-rock flavour was first produced in July 2018, and according to the lawsuit, is currently in development for Broadway. If this commenter is correct in their assessment it will be one to watch: The "Authority" should never been allowed to trademark content/characters that are subject to copyright law. Since trademarks never expire, allowing such would basically be a permanent end-run around the expiration dates of copyright, and everyone would be doing it., rendering those dates meaningless.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 4, 2023 4:24:39 GMT
More from the world of artful ownership.... Police say this may be the world's biggest art fraud case involving law enforcement. If you were shocked by the breadth and depth of art world forgery outlined in the documentary There Are No Fakes (2019), there is promising news today: 8 charged, over 1,000 paintings seized in Norval Morrisseau art fraud investigation
CBC News - Mar 03, 2023 www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/norval-morrisseau-forgery-1.6766990There Are No Fakes, a film released in 2019, includes the story of Hearn — the Barenaked Ladies keyboardist and guitarist who purchased a purported Morrisseau painting from a Toronto gallery in 2005. Questions were raised about the painting's authenticity, and Hearn would eventually sue the gallery; he was later awarded $60,000 in compensation by the Ontario Court of Appeal. Filmmaker Jamie Kastner says the developments today are exciting and gratifying. The legacy of Norval Morrisseau must be about more than fraud. There Are No Fakes - trailer www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZMKLNPCyFIm
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Mar 31, 2023 18:57:47 GMT
More from the complicated realm of artful ownership.... Tetris: Granddaughter shocked by film depicting Robert SteinA woman whose grandfather "found Tetris" said she was "shocked" a film had been made about the game's development without her knowledge. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-65127104The film depicts the issues surrounding the licensing of the game, created by Russian software engineer Alexey Pajitnov, and getting it licensed outside the USSR during the Cold War. At that time, intellectual property rights did not exist in the communist USSR - individual inventions or creations were owned by the state, theoretically to be shared among everyone. In previous reports, Mr Stein, had been depicted as the man who "stole" Tetris. Ms Stein said her grandfather "had the best intentions of licensing Tetris legitimately". "When he made that agreement, he thought he had the rights," she said. "He was not quite understanding there was much more at play when it comes to Russia." Mr Stein secured some of the rights to sell the game on some platforms such as Commodore, but not the big ones such as Nintendo.
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Post by kims on Apr 1, 2023 0:08:01 GMT
Frankly the whole rights issue is confusing. I saw a documentary about John Lennon stating that after an artist dies the children are entitled to the rights, but no explanation. If an artist sells their catalogue to a person or entity, after the artist's do the rights revert to the children? I follow your posts about this issue, sorry I can't be of help. I hope you continue posting these, maybe I'll eventually find a glimmer of understanding.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 1, 2023 0:36:58 GMT
I have absolutely no glimmer of understanding myself but like you I follow it with great interest trying to gain insight. If you or I or anyone ever figures out an equitable and uncomplicated solution many professionals will be out of work.
My personal thinking on the matter is often so regressive I don't dare type it here.
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Post by jamesjazzguitar on Apr 1, 2023 0:39:48 GMT
Frankly the whole rights issue is confusing. I saw a documentary about John Lennon stating that after an artist dies the children are entitled to the rights, but no explanation. If an artist sells their catalogue to a person or entity, after the artist's do the rights revert to the children? I follow your posts about this issue, sorry I can't be of help. I hope you continue posting these, maybe I'll eventually find a glimmer of understanding. Copyrights, when owned by an individual are part of one's estate and transferred, per the will, upon death. Thus, the rights could be transferred to one's children, spouse, siblings etc.... If no will, there is probate, and a judge will determine who-gets-what.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 6, 2023 2:41:01 GMT
It is helpful to watch the video version of the news item below as it makes the issue of copying a bit clearer. The artist holds up one of his pieces that does look remarkably similar to the Aritzia creation. Aritzia sued over hot pink sculptures by artist claiming they're 'identical' copies of his workArtist says Canadian retailer is violating copyright with sculptures across North Americawww.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/aritzia-lawsuit-pink-sculpture-window-display-spring-2023-1.6794799Aritzia is being sued by an artist in the United States over hot pink sculptures that have been featured in the Canadian fashion retailer's window displays across North America this spring. The artist said the Canadian chain is copying his work with sculptures that are "identical" to the sculptures he's been creating for more than 40 years. Aritzia sued over sculptures
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 8, 2023 4:19:40 GMT
I can't even begin to digest the concepts and concerns of AI in art, photography, acting, writing, poetry, music, spoken word, voice work, etc. Matters are advancing quickly even with calls from Tech CEOs for a timeout. In the BBC video below artist Sam Burford says it takes him 20 or 30 seconds to create some AI pieces. While he is an example of an artist embracing the new technology..... The Guardian article below is a great backgrounder on problems and limitations. At the end of the article it links to other items such as using AI to detect forgery. AI art: 'The genie is out of the bottle'www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-london-65206781April 6, 2023 London artist Sam Burford is entering his AI art to Photo London 2023 for the first time. AI image generators "learn" to create images from simple text instructions by analysing human-made pictures, including images found online. Some artists find image generators a valuable way to express themselves creatively - but many others worry they can convincingly imitate their style and use it to produce images in seconds. ‘ChatGPT said I did not exist’: how artists and writers are fighting back against AIFrom lawsuits to IT hacks, the creative industries are deploying a range of tactics to protect their jobs and original work from automationwww.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/18/chatgpt-said-i-did-not-exist-how-artists-and-writers-are-fighting-back-against-aiA software-generated approximation of Nick Cave’s lyrics notably drew the performer’s wrath earlier this year. He called it “a grotesque mockery of what it is to be human”. Not a great review. Meanwhile, AI innovations such as Jukebox are also threatening musicians and composers. And digital voice-cloning technology is putting real narrators and actors out of regular work. In February, a Texas veteran audiobook narrator called Gary Furlong noticed Apple had been given the right to “use audiobook files for machine learning training and models” in one of his contracts. But the union SAG-AFTRA took up his case. The agency involved, Findaway Voices, now owned by Spotify, has since agreed to call a temporary halt and points to a “revoke” clause in its contracts. But this year Apple brought out its first books narrated by algorithms, a service Google has been offering for two years.
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Post by dianedebuda on Apr 8, 2023 15:07:22 GMT
The whole rights situation is so confusing and there are so many conflicting viewpoints that are individually reasonable but the end result is a mess.
I like to watch figure skating which is sport/art performed to music. Many of the past performances have been removed from Youtube and other sites because of music licensing issues. During the last Olympics, a US pairs team was told they didn't have rights to music by the rep of its performer who uses non-standard rights (and, surprise!, is now found to have a history of litigation). As I understand, the team was blindsided since they thought they had obtained such rights and had been using the soundtrack all year. Apparently this was resolved, but that Olympic performance has never been available for public viewing after the live event. This year, no replays of any skating event seem to be available in the US and is rumored to be caused by the evolving live vs streaming music license terms. A case where when the rights of one artist effectively erase the video record of existance of another. Similar to the soundtracks attached to movies debacle.
Can really see each entity feeling like they're protecting what is rightfully theirs, but the end result is that I just feel so sad for all involved and disappointed that something that was meant for public viewing is no longer available. Same way I feel about the rights squabbles that keep things like The Pajama Game or Damn Yankees collecting dust in the vault. 😢
Sometimes I worry that these lengthy rights protection cases can end up with the subject art being lost to history just because no one remembers it or cares anymore.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 8, 2023 19:39:53 GMT
Interesting. No wonder I had so much trouble locating a pair's routine recently. I should have suspected. Would you mind sharing the team and the music in question?
My dream is for a fund I can pay in to to be allowed access to contested items I want to see now. The pooled money could be split once each conflict is settled. This would help keep the item alive and vital. But all the wheels come off...who manages the fund, what fees apply...oh well.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 8, 2023 19:47:47 GMT
This morning I just about fell off my chez lounge when the AI @ the Masters story came on the radio. I am sorry to say the robot sounded pretty good, especially for an early incarnation. I can see this type of AI adoption being very profitable and therefore probable. There is much money to be saved by decreasing the number of actors/performers/announcers needed I would suspect. The New AI Play-by-Play Announcer on the Masters App Is Pretty Creepy www.si.com/golf/news/ai-announcer-masters-app-augusta-national-chat-gpt-sneak-previewA preview of the Artificial Intelligence announcer that will be implemented into the Masters app this year is making the rounds on social media, and it’s awfully scary to watch the technology in action. For the 2023 tournament, IBM teamed up with the Masters to provide “AI generated spoken commentary" for more than 20,000 clips posted to the application throughout the event. The Masters famously documents almost every shot hit throughout the tournament. According to IBM, the announcer was trained by large language models like ChatGPT to understand golf terminology and analyze the swings in each video.
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Post by galacticgirrrl on Apr 8, 2023 19:58:08 GMT
AI at the Movies
The Demon Seed (1977)The part that really stayed with me from The Demon Seed was how Proteus IV took over the house. One of the few examples where a terrible book was turned into a half-way decent film. Dr. Alex Harris is the developer of Proteus IV, an extremely advanced and autonomous artificial intelligence program. Proteus is so powerful that only a few days after going online, it develops a groundbreaking treatment for leukemia. Harris, a brilliant scientist, has modified his own home to be run by voice-activated computers. Harris demonstrates Proteus to his corporate sponsors, explaining that the sum of human knowledge is being fed into its system. Proteus speaks using subtle language that mildly disturbs Harris's team. The following day, Proteus asks Harris for a new terminal in order to study man. When Harris refuses, Proteus demands to know when it will be let "out of this box". Harris then switches off the communications link. Proteus restarts itself, and – discovering a free terminal in Harris's home – surreptitiously extends its control over the many devices left there by Harris.
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Post by dianedebuda on Apr 8, 2023 23:04:55 GMT
Interesting. No wonder I had so much trouble locating a pair's routine recently. I should have suspected. Would you mind sharing the team and the music in question? My dream is for a fund I can pay in to to be allowed access to contested items I want to see now. The pooled money could be split once each conflict is settled. This would help keep the item alive and vital. But all the wheels come off...who manages the fund, what fees apply...oh well. The team: Alexa Knierim and Brandon Fraizer skating to House of the Raising Sun for their Short Program. Won't mention the obscure musical group other that to say it wasn't the Eric Burdon and the Animals version. Pretty sad when they skated to it a couple of months later at the 2022 World Championship and won, but of course that performance was only viewable live in the US. Different licensing for live events vs replays.
That dream would be really something if it could happen. Don't really want the artists short changed, but it's so frustrating.
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Post by kims on Apr 9, 2023 2:16:13 GMT
I'll use Truman Capote as an example. He has an estate owning the rights to his works. Does the will have to state his letters and journals are included or is it a given that those are included as part of his library. If the estate owns the rights how long does it control the rights? Is there a generally accepted time before the writing becomes public domain? If I received a letter from Tru, do I have the right to publish it or is his correspondence to me part of his rights? If I wrote a letter to Tru, can the estate publish my letter or do they need my permission?
About getting the rights to music, I read somewhere that when a tv series like FRIENDS bought the rights to play a song on one of those episodes, it does not extend to the streaming service. Therefore the song is removed from the episode on the streaming service. It would seem once you've obtained the rights in that case, you'd have the rights no matter what platform. Can you imagine losing all the Irving Berlin songs in the old movies when shown on tv or streaming services? As complicated as this seems, I wonder if lawyers understand or if they fight case by case?
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