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Post by topbilled on Mar 19, 2024 3:47:21 GMT
From love, honor and obey
To love, honor and betray...
Join us for THE TWO MRS. CARROLLS (1947) on Sunday.
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Post by Andrea Doria on Mar 19, 2024 17:18:24 GMT
Yay! Barbara Stanwyck! My favorite actress and yet I don't think I've seen this one.
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Post by Fading Fast on Mar 19, 2024 18:53:41 GMT
Yay! Barbara Stanwyck! My favorite actress and yet I don't think I've seen this one. "Thank you, Andrea" - Barbara Stanwyck.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 20, 2024 14:00:21 GMT
Beware of husbands bringing milk...
You never know what they put in it.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 20, 2024 23:49:46 GMT
Bogart plays a painter who specializes in portraits.
During a key moment in the film, Stanwyck and her stepdaughter discover the latest painting he's been working on.
Stanwyck takes a closer look.
What does she see...?
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Post by BunnyWhit on Mar 21, 2024 2:01:24 GMT
Definitely a look of lactose intolerance.....
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Post by Fading Fast on Mar 21, 2024 12:48:37 GMT
For fans of BunnyWhit's outstanding "Is That What You're Wearing" thread, we have a beret sighting coming our way Sunday on child actress Ann Carter - playing, possibly, the most-adult child ever - in "The Two Mrs. Carrolls."
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Post by topbilled on Mar 21, 2024 14:22:08 GMT
Trailer for the film:
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Post by Fading Fast on Mar 21, 2024 14:57:57 GMT
They were really selling Stanwyck and Bogart hard in this trailer; the story took a decidedly second place.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 21, 2024 15:15:34 GMT
They were really selling Stanwyck and Bogart hard in this trailer; the story took a decidedly second place. Yes, and it's kind of interesting how much of the plot is spoiled in the trailer. The Broadway stage play does not reveal the husband is a killer until halfway into the story. But this version reveals that he offed the first wife within the first few minutes, and the trailer shows him trying to strangle Stanwyck...so the audience will not be surprised by anything when they see the movie.
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Post by Fading Fast on Mar 21, 2024 15:22:51 GMT
They were really selling Stanwyck and Bogart hard in this trailer; the story took a decidedly second place. Yes, and it's kind of interesting how much of the plot is spoiled in the trailer. The Broadway stage play does not reveal the husband is a killer until halfway into the story. But this version reveals that he offed the first wife within the first few minutes, and the trailer shows him trying to strangle Stanwyck...so the audience will not be surprised by anything when they see the movie.
Great point and I don't think it helps the movie at all. Knowing Bogie is the killer all along makes a chunk of the middle of the movie a bit of a slog. You almost feel like saying, "move it along and get to the next killing already." Plus (spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the movie), for me, why Bogie would want Smith, a clearly selfish and controlling b*tch, over loving, kind and pretty darn well-off Stanwyck made no sense to me. They hinted that Smith has more money, but he was hardly on relief living off of Stanwyck.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 21, 2024 15:26:09 GMT
Some trivia:
Warner Brothers intended it as a vehicle for Bette Davis contrary to Stanwyck biographers' claim that it was intended for her.
Stanwyck was originally contracted to do THE FOUNTAINHEAD with Bogart which had been delayed. Their roles eventually went to Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper, and Stanwyck was very upset when she lost such a plum part to Neal. She threatened to never make another film for Jack Warner again.
Bogart was doing retakes for THE BIG SLEEP and about to marry Lauren Bacall. He did not want to make THE TWO MRS. CARROLLS but the threat of a suspension by the studio changed his mind. Before he finally agreed to do it, Paul Henreid had been temporarily cast opposite Stanwyck.
Bogart had previously costarred with Alexis Smith in CONFLICT (another film he did not want to make, in which he played a husband killer). In CONFLICT, Smith is someone that Bogart is obsessed with having but doesn't get. In THE TWO MRS. CARROLLS she is a more willing participant in the extra-marital affair.
The director is Peter Godfrey, who has a cameo in the film. He had previously made CHRISTMAS IN CONNECTICUT with Stanwyck. They would also make CRY WOLF together.
The Broadway play ran from 1943 to 1945 and was enormously successful with 585 performances. It was based on an earlier British play that had run in London in the 1930s. British actress Elisabeth Bergner played the tormented wife for the entire Broadway run. The husband was played by Victor Jory for the first year on Broadway. He was replaced by Onslow Stevens during the second year.
Incidentally the play is labeled a comedy on the Internet Broadway Database. Is that a possible error? Or was the play more of a black comedy than Warner Brothers' version which is clearly a psychological thriller...?
Filmed in mid-1945 after the play closed on Broadway, this motion picture's release into theaters was delayed until March 1947. It was a huge hit. Bogart and Stanwyck did not make any other movies together.
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Post by topbilled on Mar 22, 2024 14:04:21 GMT
Commentary by Eddie Muller:
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Post by Fading Fast on Mar 22, 2024 14:44:20 GMT
Commentary by Eddie Muller:
Kudos to Eddie, that is a lot of neat information. Love the silliness of Warner Bros. basically making a replacement version of "Conflict," as if the universe wouldn't be happy if Bogie didn't play a wife-killing husband at least once. Good grief.
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Post by BunnyWhit on Mar 22, 2024 23:17:19 GMT
Thanks for the great info, Topbilled.
Here's Eddie's outro for the film. *Watch it after seeing the film if you are afraid it might spoil things for you.* I like that he speaks well of cinematographer Peverell Marley, artist John Decker, and actress Ann Carter. I did not previously know the reason Carter had a short career. I say bless her toes.
Of course, I'd also add a nod to Milo Anderson and Edith Head for costumes. Nothing over the top here, but very nice casual style on everyone, especially Stanwyck who was friends with Head. My favorite is this lovely dress, for which I don't find a really nice pic.
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